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Should have the ability to turn off comments for these.
by d--b 3y ago
Should have the ability to turn off comments for these.
- supposemaybe 3y ago[flagged]
- edu 3y agoIt's more about being able to have a civilized conversation in some topics.
- pc86 3y agoPlenty of us are capable of having civilized conversation on these topics. If you can't, you should be banned. The problem will work itself out over time.
- edu 3y agoI was talking in general, not about myself. I agree with you, this conversations should be had. But unfortunately a small, but comitted, minority can (and often will) turn the comments on sensitive topics into a toxic cesspool.
- threatofrain 3y agoWhy not just treat it as a way for undesirable guests to reveal themselves? Sounds like HN never wanted these guests and doesn't have the administrative attention to be watching all the time.
- infamouscow 3y agoCivilized conversation is limited by the emotional stability of those having it. People have it so easy now they've grown up and spent their entire lives in total comfort and without even the slightest hint of adversarial interaction. So when they encounter it, they overreact and panic at the slightest bit of scrutiny rather than behave like reasonable adults.
- d--b 3y agoThey tend to remove posts causing flame in comments
- supposemaybe 3y agoIt’s the most important thing going on in the world. And geeks shouldn’t be thought of as people who will sit and think how cool the death machine AI that Israel has developed which chooses how and when 30K children die… geeks make this tech, profitise from it, and lurk about HN and when it comes to facing the reality of their creations they want to close the conversation down, flag comments, and evade the hurty real world reality of it. Sad. And pathetic. I’m not saying you are personally.
- mistermann 3y ago> They tend to remove posts causing flame in comments It can be fun to consider the precise and comprehensive truth value of such statements (or, the very nature of "reality" for extra fun) using strict, set theory based non-binary logic. It can also be not fun. Or sometimes even dangerous.
- mistermann 3y agoThe goal of that being?
- pc86 3y agoHN exists for us to comment on articles. The majority of comments are from folks who didn't even read the article (and that's fine). Turning off comments makes as much sense as just posting the heading and no link or attribution.
- d--b 3y agoWell, this post is surely going to get removed because of flaming in comments, so, which is better, post with no comments, or no post at all?
- pc86 3y agoHaving civil conversation and banning aggressively those who can't be adults?
- xpe 3y ago> Well, this post is surely going to get removed because of flaming in comments This is one prediction of many possible outcomes. Independent of the probability of a negative downstream outcome: 1. It is preferable to correct the unwelcome behavior itself, not the acceptable events simply preceding it (that are non-causal). For example, we denounce when a bully punches a kid, not that the kid stood his ground.* 2. We don't want to create a self-fulfilling prophecy in the form of self-censorship. * I'm not dogmatic on this. There are interesting situations with blurry lines. For example, consider defensive driving, where it is rational to anticipate risky behavior from other drivers and proactively guard against it, rather than waiting for an accident to happen.
- xpe 3y ago> so, which is better, post with no comments, or no post at all? The false choice dilemma is dead. Long live the false choice dilemma!