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Oh that's rich, like city and urban areas aren't historically racist either.

by gedy 3y ago

ToucanLoucan 3y ago
Everywhere is racist, but suburbs were built on racism and they're maintained by it.
- gedy 3y ago
  Sounds like you might want to step away from the computer, walk around and meet people in these "racist suburbs" that you lambast. There's very few around me at least that are white majority. I see worse race and class divisions in the city neighborhoods.
  - 2devnull 3y ago
    Right. Urbanism is a primary driver of racial strife and violence. Look at crime stats. Cities make people violent. Nature makes people calmer and less likely to commit violent acts.
  - commandar 3y ago
    In many major cities, racism being a major factor in the development of the suburbs is plain undeniable historic fact. Atlanta, for example, may have been known as "the city too busy to hate" but continues to suffer from many issues that are a direct result of white flight and deliberate efforts to keep minorities out of the suburbs. It's why the METRA train lines and public transportation in general has such limited coverage. It's why the metro area is a mess of disjointed services. It's why "Atlanta" has a population of over 6 million but the City of Atlanta has less than half a million residents. None of this happened by accident. In the most extreme case, a 30 mile long, 10 foot wide city existed for decades solely to contain the City of Atlanta.[1] This happened in less blatant ways all over the metro area and bitter fighting to keep Atlanta out (with "Atlanta" being unsubtle code for "minorities") was a recurring theme throughout the 20th century. The people living there today may not necessarily be racist, but the existence of the suburbs themselves is pretty directly attributable to racism. Some of those burbs are majority minority today; that doesn't mean that their formation wasn't racist or that that history doesn't have real knock-on effects. [1] - https://www.wabe.org/how-atlanta-was-kept-out-cobb-county-10-foot-wide-city/ https://www.wabe.org/how-atlanta-was-kept-out-cobb-county-10...

Oh that's rich, like city and urban areas aren't historically racist either.

by gedy 3y ago

Oh that's rich, like city and urban areas aren't historically racist either.

ToucanLoucan 3y ago

Everywhere is racist, but suburbs were built on racism and they're maintained by it.

gedy 3y ago
Sounds like you might want to step away from the computer, walk around and meet people in these "racist suburbs" that you lambast. There's very few around me at least that are white majority. I see worse race and class divisions in the city neighborhoods.
- 2devnull 3y ago
  Right. Urbanism is a primary driver of racial strife and violence. Look at crime stats. Cities make people violent. Nature makes people calmer and less likely to commit violent acts.
- commandar 3y ago
  In many major cities, racism being a major factor in the development of the suburbs is plain undeniable historic fact. Atlanta, for example, may have been known as "the city too busy to hate" but continues to suffer from many issues that are a direct result of white flight and deliberate efforts to keep minorities out of the suburbs. It's why the METRA train lines and public transportation in general has such limited coverage. It's why the metro area is a mess of disjointed services. It's why "Atlanta" has a population of over 6 million but the City of Atlanta has less than half a million residents. None of this happened by accident. In the most extreme case, a 30 mile long, 10 foot wide city existed for decades solely to contain the City of Atlanta.[1] This happened in less blatant ways all over the metro area and bitter fighting to keep Atlanta out (with "Atlanta" being unsubtle code for "minorities") was a recurring theme throughout the 20th century. The people living there today may not necessarily be racist, but the existence of the suburbs themselves is pretty directly attributable to racism. Some of those burbs are majority minority today; that doesn't mean that their formation wasn't racist or that that history doesn't have real knock-on effects. [1] - https://www.wabe.org/how-atlanta-was-kept-out-cobb-county-10-foot-wide-city/ https://www.wabe.org/how-atlanta-was-kept-out-cobb-county-10...