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> Neoliberalism/anarcocapitalism has stoned these corporations Either you’re implying that neoliberalism is the same as anarchocapitalism, or you’re suggestin

> Neoliberalism/anarcocapitalism has stoned these corporations Either you’re implying that neoliberalism is the same as anarchocapitalism, or you’re suggesting that Apple embodies both at once. In the grand argument over how much government we need “neoliberals” would answer “less”, but a long way from answering “none” like the ancaps. Try and find an AnCap who wants government police, a state military, etc and then try and find a neoliberal who doesn’t want them. That is a pretty impactful difference! I know of no evidence to suggest that Apple falls into either camp let alone both at once! Perhaps these are examples of terms that for a certain crowd have become mere epithets used with only superficial understanding. It might also explain the alleged sins you then list off assuming we all would agree they apply.

tivert 3y ago
> anarchocapitalism ...is an inherently unserious and self-contradictory idea. It's the Ununoctium of political ideologies: it is so unstable that if ever realized it will decay in a microsecond to something entirely different. Anyone who treats it as something that could be stable and realizable should be mocked or ignored. So, that said, I think the usage should in the GP should just be auto-corrected to "extreme capitalism" and left there.
- nyokodo 3y ago
  > corrected to "extreme capitalism" and left there Incorrect uses of specific terms shouldn’t be changed to questionable uses of incredibly vague terms unless this is mere activist slogan homework instead of an actual discussion meant to persuade.
  - tivert 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle > "be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept" It works for internet comments, too.
lnxg33k1 3y ago
If you go back to my message, I said: "Neoliberalism/Anarcocapitalism stunned them", I was talking about the political and cultural environment that fostered Apple's and other's attitude from the end of the cold war, that the system didn't have anything to compete against, and got out of hand, until now.
- nyokodo 3y ago
  > I was talking about the political and cultural environment that fostered Apple's and other's attitude Neoliberalism certainly has had an effect, but can you point out the anarchocapitalist political and cultural elements that have had any significant influence on any part of society anywhere let alone Apple? It is an extremely fringe political movement even within libertarianism which is itself a small minority movement albeit large enough to occasionally be noticeable.
  - lnxg33k1 3y ago
    > within libertarianism My bad then, I consider(ed) anarcocapitalism as a synonim of libertarianism

tivert 3y ago

> anarchocapitalism ...is an inherently unserious and self-contradictory idea. It's the Ununoctium of political ideologies: it is so unstable that if ever realized it will decay in a microsecond to something entirely different. Anyone who treats it as something that could be stable and realizable should be mocked or ignored. So, that said, I think the usage should in the GP should just be auto-corrected to "extreme capitalism" and left there.

nyokodo 3y ago
> corrected to "extreme capitalism" and left there Incorrect uses of specific terms shouldn’t be changed to questionable uses of incredibly vague terms unless this is mere activist slogan homework instead of an actual discussion meant to persuade.
- tivert 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle > "be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept" It works for internet comments, too.

lnxg33k1 3y ago

If you go back to my message, I said: "Neoliberalism/Anarcocapitalism stunned them", I was talking about the political and cultural environment that fostered Apple's and other's attitude from the end of the cold war, that the system didn't have anything to compete against, and got out of hand, until now.

nyokodo 3y ago
> I was talking about the political and cultural environment that fostered Apple's and other's attitude Neoliberalism certainly has had an effect, but can you point out the anarchocapitalist political and cultural elements that have had any significant influence on any part of society anywhere let alone Apple? It is an extremely fringe political movement even within libertarianism which is itself a small minority movement albeit large enough to occasionally be noticeable.
- lnxg33k1 3y ago
  > within libertarianism My bad then, I consider(ed) anarcocapitalism as a synonim of libertarianism