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FCC to Vote to Restore Net Neutrality Rules, Reversing Trump

60 points by hotdailys 3y ago

ChrisArchitect 3y ago
Avoid syndicated content. Actual article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/fcc-vote-restore-net-neutrality-rules-reversing-trump-2024-04-02/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/fcc-vote-restore-net-neut... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39911972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39911972
- ChrisArchitect 3y ago
  Official release: FCC to Vote on Restoring Net Neutrality https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39923231 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39923231
stuckkeys 3y ago
I still have cringe memories when that Ajit (a-hole) Pai posing with that big cup of reeses coffee mug. Sigh. Gotta love Carrs argument. “Everything is better now” haha.
betaby 3y ago
Those are cosmetic things. Changes nothing. Despite the claims Internet is very neutral de facto in USA. Source: I work with a multitude of ISPs in ~50 countries world wide, in the areas of IP transit, mobile, cloud, voip, etc.
- earthling8118 3y ago
  That's just not believable given that I have a few ip ranges that I get heavily throttled on when I don't connect through a VPN.
  - betaby 3y ago
    Post those ranges here. Post then to the NANOG mailing list. Name and shame ISPs.
- Buttons840 3y ago
  Yes, our Internet could be worse, and I support laws that keep our public utilities from becoming worse.
- zrn900 3y ago
  Internet is very neutral in the US because major states like NY and CA have legislated strict net neutrality laws, literally making it infeasible and risky for companies to violate it. You don't know whose traffic will pass from which state and which backbone so it will inevitably end up with you violating the laws of these states. How do we know? This is exactly what they say - they WERE going to violate it, but now its too risky with the fines...
ametrau 3y ago
Net neutrality favours tech giants and allows them to extract more value than they give to ISPs. It also increases their power. It’s amazing how much they can influence public opinion to make people think this is actually good for them.
- Anonandy2 3y ago
  Yes this is correct. I read through 1/5th of the "Net Neutrality" rules proposed back when. For every 1 rule that made sense, there were 2 rules that were astoundingly terrible and would make it so there could be absolute no competition ever with the enshrined powers that be.

60 points by hotdailys 3y ago

Avoid syndicated content. Actual article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/fcc-vote-restore-net-neutrality-rules-reversing-trump-2024-04-02/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/fcc-vote-restore-net-neut... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39911972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39911972

ChrisArchitect 3y ago
Official release: FCC to Vote on Restoring Net Neutrality https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39923231 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39923231

stuckkeys 3y ago

I still have cringe memories when that Ajit (a-hole) Pai posing with that big cup of reeses coffee mug. Sigh. Gotta love Carrs argument. “Everything is better now” haha.

betaby 3y ago

Those are cosmetic things. Changes nothing. Despite the claims Internet is very neutral de facto in USA. Source: I work with a multitude of ISPs in ~50 countries world wide, in the areas of IP transit, mobile, cloud, voip, etc.

earthling8118 3y ago
That's just not believable given that I have a few ip ranges that I get heavily throttled on when I don't connect through a VPN.
- betaby 3y ago
  Post those ranges here. Post then to the NANOG mailing list. Name and shame ISPs.
Buttons840 3y ago
Yes, our Internet could be worse, and I support laws that keep our public utilities from becoming worse.
zrn900 3y ago
Internet is very neutral in the US because major states like NY and CA have legislated strict net neutrality laws, literally making it infeasible and risky for companies to violate it. You don't know whose traffic will pass from which state and which backbone so it will inevitably end up with you violating the laws of these states. How do we know? This is exactly what they say - they WERE going to violate it, but now its too risky with the fines...

ametrau 3y ago

Net neutrality favours tech giants and allows them to extract more value than they give to ISPs. It also increases their power. It’s amazing how much they can influence public opinion to make people think this is actually good for them.

Anonandy2 3y ago
Yes this is correct. I read through 1/5th of the "Net Neutrality" rules proposed back when. For every 1 rule that made sense, there were 2 rules that were astoundingly terrible and would make it so there could be absolute no competition ever with the enshrined powers that be.