Next is buggy, Remix mostly just works, and I have zero interest in Vercel which is the Next selling point IMO. I haven't played with either Drizzle or Kysely,

Next is buggy, Remix mostly just works, and I have zero interest in Vercel which is the Next selling point IMO. I haven't played with either Drizzle or Kysely, looking at the docs Drizzle in particular looks slimmer and more sql-like which is a plus, though in general I think having an environment like dbeaver or data grip that gives you completions for your queries and developing them there then copy/pasting the code and getting type safety on raw queries with zapatos is still superior for power users who know sql.