> Again, that happened only in Debian testing and Fedora rawhide Right, lots of failures happened. I'm not sure the point. > Those are rolling release variant

> Again, that happened only in Debian testing and Fedora rawhide Right, lots of failures happened. I'm not sure the point. > Those are rolling release variants deliberately intended to take upstreams rapidly with minimal review, precisely so that integration testing can be done. And it was, and it flagged the issue via at least one symptom. And nothing was done about it. > Only one person gets the cookie for finding any given problem, usually. And this time it was Andres, and we should absolutely celebrate that. But that doesn't mean we run off and shit on the losers, right? The problem isn't that they were not the first to find it, the problem is that they weren't even in the race. And people and processes are not be immune to criticism for failures, so we absolutely can "shit on" the failures at many levels that have helped to make this situation possible.