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One could argue that while assholes may write good code, for all we know they're putting off people that would write as good or even better code and not be assh
by antihero 14y ago
One could argue that while assholes may write good code, for all we know they're putting off people that would write as good or even better code and not be assholes.
This especially applies to women - sure there are misogynistic jerks that are great coders, but who's to say the women they are putting off wouldn't be better in the long run?
I hear the argument that if someone is dedicated enough they'll overlook the abuse they get and do what they do anyway, but the entire premise of the overarching debate is that social skills don't really correlate with technical skills, which blows that argument out of the water - people might not have the social skills to deal with shitbags, but that doesn't mean they aren't fantastic amazing programmers.
- tomjen3 14y agoWhy is it that people care so much about how many females there is this industry? Isn't it more important how good code I write, than the fact that I have a cock between my legs and not a cunt? Anyway social skills are pretty much just a filter between what you want to say (how many times to you think "this guy is an asshole" and don't say it) and what you actually say and part of this is the ability to pick up (and care about) what others feel and guess (and if really good) force their reactions and desires to match what you want them to do (see the end of the previous paragraph for an example). None of that has anything to do with code. The compiler has no feelings and doesn't care about yours. So if you want somebody in charge of the project, make sure they can deal with people (including assholes). If you want code written, accept that the people who can do it best have better things to care about than feelings.
- gazrogers 14y ago> If you want code written, accept that the people who can do it best have better things to care about than feelings. Are you suggesting that all the 'best coders' are arseholes? If so, do you have any evidence to back that up?
- roopeshv 14y ago"have evidence to back that up" the cop out for things you don't agree with. how the fuck did you even conclude that they have better things to care about than feelings means being assholes. do you have evidence to back up that's what he means?
- Daniel_Newby 14y ago> Why is it that people care so much about how many females there is this industry? We want more good people at a lower labor cost. That means recruiting from groups that have the necessary abilities and are under-recruited. Girls are severely under-recruited in the quantitative fields, so it would really help to have more of them.
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoMaybe you could expand on that? Because it kind of sounds like you are suggesting that more women should be hired because they come cheaper. I imagine some women would take offence to suggesting the "gender wage gap" makes good business sense. I doubt that is what you meant but it sounds like it.
- Daniel_Newby 14y agoMore people in a field drive the cost of labor down.
- antihero 14y agoBecause we could near double the amount of amazing stuff we could achieve if we unlock the potential of the other 50% of the population.