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>They have an office in Abbotsford The office they listed is corporate lawyers: Klassen and Company Lawyers. Ones that handle filing incorporation papers. This

>They have an office in Abbotsford The office they listed is corporate lawyers: Klassen and Company Lawyers. Ones that handle filing incorporation papers. This employer absolutely does not occupy that address. >and as such SubcoDevs reopened the role in Canada in order to ensure the employee still remains with them That would be a blatant abuse of the LMIA process. Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots.

alephnerd 3y ago
> Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots You have to list the role in LMIA if you are doing this kind of a transfer [0] LMIA exemptions only work for a limited set of professions [1] Everyone from Subcodev to Microsoft does this and has done this since the early 2000s. [0] - https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-canada-a-complete-guide-for-employers https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-... [1] - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/work-without-permit.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...
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- llm_nerd 3y ago
  Are you just linking random things now? As with your citation of an address that is clearly just a legal office, I don't think you are reading the things you are linking or you just link them and think it gives credibility. Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country *is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time*. It is an illegal abuse of this program. The LMIA process requires that you demonstrate that there are no Canadians (or PRs) available to fill a role at going market rates. It is not "post a fake listing, wait a while, punt some random Indian over to Canada" freebie. Random links don't demonstrate otherwise. Does this sort of fraud happen all the time? Of course it does. The government has started to get some heat so they're starting to pay a bit more attention now though, so future results may vary.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    > Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time. It is an illegal abuse of this program Abuse of the program? Absolutely. Illegal? I haven't heard of any Software firm prosecuted for this yet. Feel free to apply to the job and litigate it if you don't get it if you want to make a statement. Also, those are not random links. Rippling is the primary HR Platform used by YC and YC funded startups, and I gave you the IRCC Page explicitly listing which roles are except from LMIA filings. All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it. One of our relatives who does this kind of stuff in the construction industry is himself a major donor to the BC CPC.
    - randomdata 3y ago
      > the BC CPC. The what now? Do you mean BC United (formerly the BC Liberals)?
    - llm_nerd 3y ago
      >Also, those are not random links. They are random in that they don't refute anything I've said, nor do they support what you've said. >All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it I guarantee there will be massive changes over the next 24 months. We've already seen some kick in [0]. Donations to a party kind of don't matter when you get absolutely obliterated at the polls because of this abuse. It's actually interesting looking at your various posts on this. In another you claim that Canada isn't worth the trouble but as a stepping stone to the US....but then you casually rationalize outrageous immigration fraud (both in the case of this company, and in the case of your apparent family member that should be jailed). Do you maybe, perhaps, see a bit of a link between these positions? But again, it hit a breaking point. A breaking point and beyond. To say there has been an enormous sentiment shift would be understating it. [0] - Moments ago Trudeau gave a press conference where he noted that "immigration has grown at a rate far beyond what Canada has been able to absorb". For Trudeau to be saying this, after years of his government basically making the mere questioning of rates verboten, is quite incredible. It is a sea shift moment.

alephnerd 3y ago

> Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots You have to list the role in LMIA if you are doing this kind of a transfer [0] LMIA exemptions only work for a limited set of professions [1] Everyone from Subcodev to Microsoft does this and has done this since the early 2000s. [0] - https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-canada-a-complete-guide-for-employers https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-... [1] - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/work-without-permit.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...

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llm_nerd 3y ago
Are you just linking random things now? As with your citation of an address that is clearly just a legal office, I don't think you are reading the things you are linking or you just link them and think it gives credibility. Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country *is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time*. It is an illegal abuse of this program. The LMIA process requires that you demonstrate that there are no Canadians (or PRs) available to fill a role at going market rates. It is not "post a fake listing, wait a while, punt some random Indian over to Canada" freebie. Random links don't demonstrate otherwise. Does this sort of fraud happen all the time? Of course it does. The government has started to get some heat so they're starting to pay a bit more attention now though, so future results may vary.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  > Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time. It is an illegal abuse of this program Abuse of the program? Absolutely. Illegal? I haven't heard of any Software firm prosecuted for this yet. Feel free to apply to the job and litigate it if you don't get it if you want to make a statement. Also, those are not random links. Rippling is the primary HR Platform used by YC and YC funded startups, and I gave you the IRCC Page explicitly listing which roles are except from LMIA filings. All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it. One of our relatives who does this kind of stuff in the construction industry is himself a major donor to the BC CPC.
  - randomdata 3y ago
    > the BC CPC. The what now? Do you mean BC United (formerly the BC Liberals)?
  - llm_nerd 3y ago
    >Also, those are not random links. They are random in that they don't refute anything I've said, nor do they support what you've said. >All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it I guarantee there will be massive changes over the next 24 months. We've already seen some kick in [0]. Donations to a party kind of don't matter when you get absolutely obliterated at the polls because of this abuse. It's actually interesting looking at your various posts on this. In another you claim that Canada isn't worth the trouble but as a stepping stone to the US....but then you casually rationalize outrageous immigration fraud (both in the case of this company, and in the case of your apparent family member that should be jailed). Do you maybe, perhaps, see a bit of a link between these positions? But again, it hit a breaking point. A breaking point and beyond. To say there has been an enormous sentiment shift would be understating it. [0] - Moments ago Trudeau gave a press conference where he noted that "immigration has grown at a rate far beyond what Canada has been able to absorb". For Trudeau to be saying this, after years of his government basically making the mere questioning of rates verboten, is quite incredible. It is a sea shift moment.