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> I'm surprised that they even decided to try to hire in Canada instead of outsourcing. The company "hiring" is an offshoring company. They clearly aren't tryi

> I'm surprised that they even decided to try to hire in Canada instead of outsourcing. The company "hiring" is an offshoring company. They clearly aren't trying to hire in Canada, but you have to post a job bank listing to be able to submit an LMIA application. Their target is purely the LMIA process to parachute people into Canada. The company is not located in Abbotsford. That's where the business incorporation lawyers are, which is the only address they have in Canada. Every indication is that it has no actual Canadian presence. This is a fantastically fake job listing. Further it isn't a "QA Tester", it's a software developer with a comical mix of skills.

alephnerd 3y ago
They have an office in Abbotsford [0] (205-2975, Gladwin Rd, Abbotsford, BC V2T 5T4) - downtown I might add (though that means nothing in the sprawly suburban town of Abbotsford). What appears to be happening is an employee at this company was in the US and probably didn't get the F1 to H1B conversion or an O-1 conversion, and as such SubcoDevs reopened the role in Canada in order to ensure the employee still remains with them. I've done this at a previous employer before, my dad himself benifited from a similar system back in the day, and so have so many others. This clearly is NOT a cash for visas program and ANYONE who is Indo-Canadian or Indian-American can easily tell based on this. [0] - https://subcodevs.com/contact/ https://subcodevs.com/contact/
- llm_nerd 3y ago
  >They have an office in Abbotsford The office they listed is corporate lawyers: Klassen and Company Lawyers. Ones that handle filing incorporation papers. This employer absolutely does not occupy that address. >and as such SubcoDevs reopened the role in Canada in order to ensure the employee still remains with them That would be a blatant abuse of the LMIA process. Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    > Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots You have to list the role in LMIA if you are doing this kind of a transfer [0] LMIA exemptions only work for a limited set of professions [1] Everyone from Subcodev to Microsoft does this and has done this since the early 2000s. [0] - https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-canada-a-complete-guide-for-employers https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-... [1] - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/work-without-permit.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...
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    - llm_nerd 3y ago
      Are you just linking random things now? As with your citation of an address that is clearly just a legal office, I don't think you are reading the things you are linking or you just link them and think it gives credibility. Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country *is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time*. It is an illegal abuse of this program. The LMIA process requires that you demonstrate that there are no Canadians (or PRs) available to fill a role at going market rates. It is not "post a fake listing, wait a while, punt some random Indian over to Canada" freebie. Random links don't demonstrate otherwise. Does this sort of fraud happen all the time? Of course it does. The government has started to get some heat so they're starting to pay a bit more attention now though, so future results may vary.
      - alephnerd 3y ago
        > Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time. It is an illegal abuse of this program Abuse of the program? Absolutely. Illegal? I haven't heard of any Software firm prosecuted for this yet. Feel free to apply to the job and litigate it if you don't get it if you want to make a statement. Also, those are not random links. Rippling is the primary HR Platform used by YC and YC funded startups, and I gave you the IRCC Page explicitly listing which roles are except from LMIA filings. All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it. One of our relatives who does this kind of stuff in the construction industry is himself a major donor to the BC CPC.

alephnerd 3y ago

They have an office in Abbotsford [0] (205-2975, Gladwin Rd, Abbotsford, BC V2T 5T4) - downtown I might add (though that means nothing in the sprawly suburban town of Abbotsford). What appears to be happening is an employee at this company was in the US and probably didn't get the F1 to H1B conversion or an O-1 conversion, and as such SubcoDevs reopened the role in Canada in order to ensure the employee still remains with them. I've done this at a previous employer before, my dad himself benifited from a similar system back in the day, and so have so many others. This clearly is NOT a cash for visas program and ANYONE who is Indo-Canadian or Indian-American can easily tell based on this. [0] - https://subcodevs.com/contact/ https://subcodevs.com/contact/

llm_nerd 3y ago
>They have an office in Abbotsford The office they listed is corporate lawyers: Klassen and Company Lawyers. Ones that handle filing incorporation papers. This employer absolutely does not occupy that address. >and as such SubcoDevs reopened the role in Canada in order to ensure the employee still remains with them That would be a blatant abuse of the LMIA process. Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  > Airdropping employees between countries is not the purpose of LMIA spots You have to list the role in LMIA if you are doing this kind of a transfer [0] LMIA exemptions only work for a limited set of professions [1] Everyone from Subcodev to Microsoft does this and has done this since the early 2000s. [0] - https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-canada-a-complete-guide-for-employers https://www.rippling.com/blog/work-permits-for-employees-in-... [1] - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/work-without-permit.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...
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  - llm_nerd 3y ago
    Are you just linking random things now? As with your citation of an address that is clearly just a legal office, I don't think you are reading the things you are linking or you just link them and think it gives credibility. Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country *is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time*. It is an illegal abuse of this program. The LMIA process requires that you demonstrate that there are no Canadians (or PRs) available to fill a role at going market rates. It is not "post a fake listing, wait a while, punt some random Indian over to Canada" freebie. Random links don't demonstrate otherwise. Does this sort of fraud happen all the time? Of course it does. The government has started to get some heat so they're starting to pay a bit more attention now though, so future results may vary.
    - alephnerd 3y ago
      > Posting a fake job listing to acquire an LMIA spot to airdrop someone getting kicked out of another country is 100% LMIA fraud, 100% of the time. It is an illegal abuse of this program Abuse of the program? Absolutely. Illegal? I haven't heard of any Software firm prosecuted for this yet. Feel free to apply to the job and litigate it if you don't get it if you want to make a statement. Also, those are not random links. Rippling is the primary HR Platform used by YC and YC funded startups, and I gave you the IRCC Page explicitly listing which roles are except from LMIA filings. All I know is neither Trudeau nor Pollviere will do anything about it. One of our relatives who does this kind of stuff in the construction industry is himself a major donor to the BC CPC.