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So the market for this is cloud providers? If so, I think it's failed. Amazon, Cloudflare, et al have already developed their own lightweight runtimes based on

by cedws 3y ago

So the market for this is cloud providers? If so, I think it's failed. Amazon, Cloudflare, et al have already developed their own lightweight runtimes based on Firecracker/V8. They might not be quite as light as unikernels, but within the same order of magnitude for sure, and I doubt the savings justify additional development complexity. As a cloud provider, your goal is to make your services as easy to adopt as possible.

pjmlp 3y ago
As Oxide, Joyent. Netfly, Vercel, GraalOne,... are showing, there is a lot of market out there beyond hyperscalers. One doesn't need to be yet another AWS to be a sustainable business.
TotoroGendut 3y ago
Why would it automatically fail just because others have ship their products first? It's always good when new ideas are tried and bring something new to the table. Never say never. > I doubt the savings justify additional development complexity. As a cloud provider, your goal is to make your services as easy to adopt as possible. I have been following the news on Unikraft development for a few years now (since 2019 I think) and now fortunately am a beta tester on kraftcloud. I have seen their website and documentation transform from something that only linux kernel wizards would use to what it is now. So definitely they put some work on making sure unikraft is easy to adopt. As the current state of kraftcloud, some apps can already be deployed by copy-pasting the config file (that usually consists of 4 or so lines), install the CLI and hit the deploy button. If you want to enable the scale-to-zero you only need to put -0 at the end of the deploy command. If your use cases not covered in their documentation asking their support or joining the discord is a good start if you don't want to deal directly with the "complexity" (which from my experience mainly consist of copy-pasting some .so files into the root folder).

by cedws 3y ago

pjmlp 3y ago

As Oxide, Joyent. Netfly, Vercel, GraalOne,... are showing, there is a lot of market out there beyond hyperscalers. One doesn't need to be yet another AWS to be a sustainable business.

TotoroGendut 3y ago

Why would it automatically fail just because others have ship their products first? It's always good when new ideas are tried and bring something new to the table. Never say never. > I doubt the savings justify additional development complexity. As a cloud provider, your goal is to make your services as easy to adopt as possible. I have been following the news on Unikraft development for a few years now (since 2019 I think) and now fortunately am a beta tester on kraftcloud. I have seen their website and documentation transform from something that only linux kernel wizards would use to what it is now. So definitely they put some work on making sure unikraft is easy to adopt. As the current state of kraftcloud, some apps can already be deployed by copy-pasting the config file (that usually consists of 4 or so lines), install the CLI and hit the deploy button. If you want to enable the scale-to-zero you only need to put -0 at the end of the deploy command. If your use cases not covered in their documentation asking their support or joining the discord is a good start if you don't want to deal directly with the "complexity" (which from my experience mainly consist of copy-pasting some .so files into the root folder).