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This is the first time I've been excited about the future of mobile computing in a while. It's also the first time I've read an article on MacRumors in a while.

This is the first time I've been excited about the future of mobile computing in a while. It's also the first time I've read an article on MacRumors in a while. I really hope a few of these early experiments work out, and wish them luck!

guywithabike 3y ago
I'm just not looking forward to the inevitable subscription billing dark patterns that are almost guaranteed to be rife in alternative app stores. Call to unsubscribe, early cancellation fees, unsubscribe "errors", etc. Say what you want about the App Store, but the fact that you can quickly and easily see all your subscriptions in one place along with how much they cost and the ability to cancel them easily is incredibly nice.
- lukeschlather 3y ago
  The exciting thing will be a real open source repository. An entire app source with no dark patterns of any kind.
- grishka 3y ago
  But then there's the flip side of how inflexible the app store subscriptions are: https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/ https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/
- oktoberpaard 3y ago
  If those stores comply with EU law, that shouldn’t be the case. See for example https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_4186 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_.... I can see how stores will pop up that don’t care about laws and regulations, but I would be hesitant to pay for anything there.
  - kmlx 3y ago
    have you seen spotify’s new app in europe? https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-01-24/the-dma-means-a-better-spotify-for-artists-creators-and-you/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-01-24/the-dma-means-a-bett... they pushed hard for apple to open up in order push more ads.
    - troupo 3y ago
      It's not "more ads". It's what Spotify has literally been offering forever, but couldn't show to people because Apple's rules literally prevent anyone from linking to any payments/purchases outside of App Store.
- olyjohn 3y ago
  Good news is that nobody is forcing you to use the alt stores. You can stay in the Apple App Store all you want.
  - balls187 3y ago
    And hope an app you need to use is always available on the Apple App Store.
    - ragazzina 3y ago
      Is this not the case on Android?

guywithabike 3y ago

I'm just not looking forward to the inevitable subscription billing dark patterns that are almost guaranteed to be rife in alternative app stores. Call to unsubscribe, early cancellation fees, unsubscribe "errors", etc. Say what you want about the App Store, but the fact that you can quickly and easily see all your subscriptions in one place along with how much they cost and the ability to cancel them easily is incredibly nice.

lukeschlather 3y ago
The exciting thing will be a real open source repository. An entire app source with no dark patterns of any kind.
grishka 3y ago
But then there's the flip side of how inflexible the app store subscriptions are: https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/ https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/
oktoberpaard 3y ago
If those stores comply with EU law, that shouldn’t be the case. See for example https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_4186 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_.... I can see how stores will pop up that don’t care about laws and regulations, but I would be hesitant to pay for anything there.
- kmlx 3y ago
  have you seen spotify’s new app in europe? https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-01-24/the-dma-means-a-better-spotify-for-artists-creators-and-you/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-01-24/the-dma-means-a-bett... they pushed hard for apple to open up in order push more ads.
  - troupo 3y ago
    It's not "more ads". It's what Spotify has literally been offering forever, but couldn't show to people because Apple's rules literally prevent anyone from linking to any payments/purchases outside of App Store.
olyjohn 3y ago
Good news is that nobody is forcing you to use the alt stores. You can stay in the Apple App Store all you want.
- balls187 3y ago
  And hope an app you need to use is always available on the Apple App Store.
  - ragazzina 3y ago
    Is this not the case on Android?