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> The whole COVID handling of New Zealand, Australia and Canada proved to me I wouldn't want to live in any of those countries. What countries are you now cur

by diggan 3y ago

> The whole COVID handling of New Zealand, Australia and Canada proved to me I wouldn't want to live in any of those countries. What countries are you now curious to live in, after seeing how they handled COVID?

astrange 3y ago
Japan, Korea and Taiwan had good results for minimal disruption.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  All of those countries have societal norms that are vastly different with respect to illness. Japanese people voluntarily, proactively wear masks when sick in public, for example. Notwithstanding some of the later research about the efficacy of masks, there was a lot less those governments HAD to CHANGE to minimize disruption, because their populations were already not generally selfish about their needs versus those around them.
  - astrange 3y ago
    Japanese people are not mystically different, their outcomes are a policy difference and you too can have that policy. (And that policy wasn't face masks, it was banning large indoor gatherings but not small or outdoor ones, plus immigration quarantine.)
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      No, they're not, but when you have a population that already is (let's be real) significantly more selfless and conscious of the wider impact of infectious disease (or even the perception thereof), you're going to be able to enact other public policies that are consistent with that goal with a lot less disruption or opposition.
wsc981 3y ago
I felt Thailand, where I live, handled it fine. I didn't feel like we got pressured here into getting the COVID vaccination and life could go on quite as normal for me as an unvaccinated person in our village (in the city it might have been different). Though my girlfriend did get the COVID vaccination eventually, due to her being afraid of not being able to visit venues, restaurants and such. She regrets now that she got the COVID vaccination. We know of many people in our neighborhood who've gotten health issues related to the COVID vaccination (e.g. blood clotting, strokes, Guillain-Barré syndrome, etcetera).

by diggan 3y ago

astrange 3y ago

Japan, Korea and Taiwan had good results for minimal disruption.

FireBeyond 3y ago
All of those countries have societal norms that are vastly different with respect to illness. Japanese people voluntarily, proactively wear masks when sick in public, for example. Notwithstanding some of the later research about the efficacy of masks, there was a lot less those governments HAD to CHANGE to minimize disruption, because their populations were already not generally selfish about their needs versus those around them.
- astrange 3y ago
  Japanese people are not mystically different, their outcomes are a policy difference and you too can have that policy. (And that policy wasn't face masks, it was banning large indoor gatherings but not small or outdoor ones, plus immigration quarantine.)
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    No, they're not, but when you have a population that already is (let's be real) significantly more selfless and conscious of the wider impact of infectious disease (or even the perception thereof), you're going to be able to enact other public policies that are consistent with that goal with a lot less disruption or opposition.

wsc981 3y ago

I felt Thailand, where I live, handled it fine. I didn't feel like we got pressured here into getting the COVID vaccination and life could go on quite as normal for me as an unvaccinated person in our village (in the city it might have been different). Though my girlfriend did get the COVID vaccination eventually, due to her being afraid of not being able to visit venues, restaurants and such. She regrets now that she got the COVID vaccination. We know of many people in our neighborhood who've gotten health issues related to the COVID vaccination (e.g. blood clotting, strokes, Guillain-Barré syndrome, etcetera).