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> I want to see your 100 send emails or 100 daily calls or 100 sent DMs everyday asking potential customers for feedback or validation conversations or to sign

> I want to see your 100 send emails or 100 daily calls or 100 sent DMs everyday asking potential customers for feedback or validation conversations or to sign up for your beta If you trust your co-founder so little that you feel the need to check their work every day, maybe you shouldn't start a company together.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
I read parents comment as a one off you might do when vetting the founder not something that they would be checking every day. If someone shows me they cold dm’ed 100 people once in a day I would have no reason to believe that they wouldn’t be capable of doing it again or that they would lie to me about it
em-bee 3y ago
trust is earned. and those are just metrics to measure your progress. pick a different number, but co-founders should share what they are working on, just as much as developers in a team do. like in daily standups. when i was working with a co-founder i got regular feedback on the progress they made with regards to finding funding, etc. while i shared my progress on the development.
- onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
  I don't think you should start a company with someone you don't already trust is the entire point...
  - em-bee 3y ago
    if you don't already have a strong network of people that you have worked with in person, then what choice is there? i have to start somewhere. whether i am a co-founder, first hire or just a lead dev doesn't really matter. even if i know them but have never actually worked with them then that's not enough to trust them. but i can manage the risk.
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TuringNYC 3y ago
Lets assume a Technical Co-Founder's time is worth $150/hr. A three month PoC built suggests a $70k contribution by the Technical Co-Founder -- upfront -- on the promise that the Business Co-Founder can actually sell it. I'd want some hard reassurances my $70k of contribution can actually be monetized if i'm giving up 50% or more of the equity on trust. If everything is on trust, why not keep all the equity for the Technical Co-Founder? Note, for most successful Technical Co-Founder, $150/hr is a very low rate.
throwaway74432 3y ago
The alternative is either know that person for a long time previously or "just trust me bro." Checking what they've been up to is a middle ground.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago

I read parents comment as a one off you might do when vetting the founder not something that they would be checking every day. If someone shows me they cold dm’ed 100 people once in a day I would have no reason to believe that they wouldn’t be capable of doing it again or that they would lie to me about it

em-bee 3y ago

trust is earned. and those are just metrics to measure your progress. pick a different number, but co-founders should share what they are working on, just as much as developers in a team do. like in daily standups. when i was working with a co-founder i got regular feedback on the progress they made with regards to finding funding, etc. while i shared my progress on the development.

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
I don't think you should start a company with someone you don't already trust is the entire point...
- em-bee 3y ago
  if you don't already have a strong network of people that you have worked with in person, then what choice is there? i have to start somewhere. whether i am a co-founder, first hire or just a lead dev doesn't really matter. even if i know them but have never actually worked with them then that's not enough to trust them. but i can manage the risk.

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TuringNYC 3y ago

Lets assume a Technical Co-Founder's time is worth $150/hr. A three month PoC built suggests a $70k contribution by the Technical Co-Founder -- upfront -- on the promise that the Business Co-Founder can actually sell it. I'd want some hard reassurances my $70k of contribution can actually be monetized if i'm giving up 50% or more of the equity on trust. If everything is on trust, why not keep all the equity for the Technical Co-Founder? Note, for most successful Technical Co-Founder, $150/hr is a very low rate.

throwaway74432 3y ago

The alternative is either know that person for a long time previously or "just trust me bro." Checking what they've been up to is a middle ground.