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Never allow yourself to be bullied or pressured into action. As a maintainer, the more a contributor or user nags, the less likely I am to oblige.
by mseepgood 3y ago
Never allow yourself to be bullied or pressured into action. As a maintainer, the more a contributor or user nags, the less likely I am to oblige.
- resource_waste 3y agoThat sounds nice. I did an engineering/program manager role for 8 years and people pretty much always did what I asked if I showed up at their desk or bothered their boss. "Squeaky wheel gets the grease?" But I too like to think that I prioritize my children on merit rather than fuss level. For some reason they continue to cry despite me claiming I don't react to it.
- kenjackson 3y agoBut in this case he was getting hit by both someone willing to help and then multiple people complaining that things were taking too long. And when you yourself feel like things are taking too long then you’re probably more susceptible to all this.
- pixl97 3y agoThe issue here is the attackers will quickly move away from an individual attacking you to the group attacking you. The person writing the infected code will never be a jerk to you at all. You'll just suddenly see a huge portion of your mailing list move against you ever so slightly. We've complained about bots in social media for a long time, but how many people in open source discussions are shady manipulative entities?
- galleywest200 3y agoThese days you can even have these emails automatically taken in by an LLM and have the LLM argue with the maintainer for you, no humans needed!
- snerbles 3y agoMaintainers will need LLM sockpuppets of their own to automatically answer these automatic emails.
- simultsop 3y agoThis is so true, distrusting the guys never being jerk to you while others do is the hardest thing ever. Intentions will never be public :/
- kjellsbells 3y agoTrue, but a determined adversary like JiaTan/Jugar has an ace up their sleeve: they are good enough, and patient enough, to be able to fork the base project, spend a year or two making it better than the original (releasing the head of steam built up from legitimate requests that the old, overworked maintainer never got too, building goodwill in the process) and then convincing the distros to pick up their fork instead of the older original. At which point it really is game over.
- cesarb 3y ago> and then convincing the distros to pick up their fork instead of the older original. Given the current situation, I'm slightly worried about Fedora's planned move to zlib-ng instead of zlib in the next release (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ZlibNGTransition https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ZlibNGTransition).