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The Soviet system? Whether we like the ideas in the article or not, that's not even remotely similar to what's being discussed. We can't have discussions aroun
by JohnBooty 3y ago
The Soviet system? Whether we like the ideas in the article or not, that's not even remotely similar to what's being discussed.
We can't have discussions around financial topics if we do things like describe any financial policy to the left of pure lasseiz-faire as "Soviet."
Robeyns proposes two upper limits on personal wealth.
Most countries with a solid social safety net should
bake a 10-million-euro (approximately $10.8 million)
cap into their social and fiscal systems, she argues.
As an ethical guide, individuals should limit themselves
to 1 million (perhaps $5 million in the less secure United
States, where one mistimed hospital bill could be enough
to thrust a household into bankruptcy). She also notes
ruefully that both proposed numbers are also less restrictive
than some philosophers’ ideal: In The Laws, for instance,
Plato argues that the wealthiest people shouldn’t be able
to have more property than four times what people with the
least have.
So, to be clear, you could be quite financially comfortable.
I understand perhaps, a little bit of what you seem to be grasping at. Whatever hard limits we set, people will game them. The first thing that comes to mind is that if we set a naively set a hard limit on personal wealth, people will hide their wealth in other ways.
Example: perhaps I am permitted to have "only" $10 million in personal wealth. However, my $100bn company "just happens" to let me use its $100 million yacht for 200 days per year and they also provide me personal chefs and so forth. So I have the lifestyle of a billionaire, thanks to the company I own, regardless of what my bank account says.
But... Soviet? Come on.
- orbital-decay 3y agoI do it because I was born in the Soviet Union, am dealing with its long-lasting cursed legacy, and this is the system I know very well. There are all sorts of highly theoretical and noble wealth redistribution ideologies made of handwavium like the one presented in the article. Doesn't matter if they're left or right or up or down, they inevitably collide with reality immediately upon receiving any traction, because they are dealing with the secondary or even tertiary consequences, not with the power imbalance which is the root cause. Dealing with that and setting up checks and balances requires actual dirty work, not navel-gazing discussions on the web, and there a lot of actors that aren't that wealthy and aren't centralized but still have disproportionate power (say, certain public activists, or extrajudicial secret services - for instance, my entire country is de facto owned by one, think pre-Church committee three-letter agencies gone rogue).
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- anthony_d 3y ago> We can't have discussions around financial topics if we do things like describe any financial policy to the left of pure lasseiz-faire as "Soviet." We also can’t have financial discussions if desiring an outcome is in anyway evidence it will happen. Someone stating they prefer an arbitrary code of ethics and then decreeing that another set of actions will produce what they want isn’t useful.