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Property rights in general are a thing made up by people, we're just arguing over where to draw the line.
by owisd 3y ago
Property rights in general are a thing made up by people, we're just arguing over where to draw the line.
- idle_zealot 3y agoIdeally somewhere between "you're not allowed to take my things" and "you're not allowed to learn from what I tell you".
- PeterisP 3y agoNot really - "arguing over where to draw the line" would be a discussion about how a hypothetical new law should treat model weights; however, assertions about whether they are a derivative work (or even "work" as such, in the sense of copyright law - noncreative transformations aren't copyrightable works, no matter how much "sweat of brow" or money they took) is a discussion about where the old copyright laws have drawn the line, and the "should's" don't matter there, it's about how the courts will interpret the precedent, and at the moment they haven't said that they are derived works, and while they could declare that, there are all kinds of arguments why they also might declare the opposite.
- zoobab 3y agoImaginary Property Rights don't exist in Nature. A purely man-made construction.
- anileated 3y agoHumans are part of nature, like trees and foxes. Property rights are necessarily part of nature too, by extension.