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> There are already many games that are not playable because servers used for DRM were turned off I'll need a source for that.

remedan 3y ago
Here is a (probably not exhaustive) list: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always_Online_DRM#Always-online_DRM_games_that_have_already_shut_down https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always...
- iLoveOncall 3y ago
  This is an incredibly misleading link. Most of those are online-only games that have been shutdown (or the multiplayer part of the game has been), it's not at all the same as having a DRM that needs to reach a server for a purely solo experience.
  - remedan 3y ago
    Sure, but there are also single-player games on the list. You asked for a source that such a thing happens. The link proves that it does.
    - iLoveOncall 3y ago
      Again, it doesn't prove anything. If you see the top of the table it says "Specifically games no longer listed as being available for sale through any means.". It doesn't mean you can't play the game if you already acquired it... I have Steam games that aren't sold anywhere anymore but I can still install and play them just fine.
TeaDude 3y ago
Just off the top of my head, Ross Scott on youtube (AccursedFarms) has plenty of videos on the subject. A few of them are tucked away in reviews but he now has a dedicated "dead game news" series. These may not be games you'd want to play but the important message is that it's concerning that the biggest publishers (Ubisoft, EA etc.) can release stuff that will randomly die at some point in the future for no good reason and that they won't even release a patch or server software so you can play the product you paid them for.
- iLoveOncall 3y ago
  You're talking about games that were online-only where the servers have been shutdown. This is not at all what the comment I'm responding to is about, which is games that rely on a DRM that connects to the internet to validate your installation, meaning that even full solo, fully offline games would stop working.
  - brokenmachine 3y ago
    There's lots of games where even the single player campaign needs servers to use.
Rinzler89 3y ago
From memory: Assassin's Creed 2, Hitman 2,3, etc.
- MikusR 3y ago
  AC2 only the multiplayer is missing. Game itself works.
orangeboats 3y ago
Remember Games for Windows Live? Pretty sure the original version of GTA4 is no longer playable without cracking it due to GFWL being shut down.
- ChoGGi 3y ago
  Microsoft released a version of gfwl that uses Xbox servers.
p0w3n3d 3y ago
https://www.techdirt.com/2021/07/06/drm-strikes-again-ubisoft-makes-own-game-unplayable-shutting-down-drm-server/ https://www.techdirt.com/2021/07/06/drm-strikes-again-ubisof...
- iLoveOncall 3y ago
  Only online features are disabled.
p0w3n3d 3y ago
https://steamcommunity.com/app/19680/discussions/0/2549465882933664814/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/19680/discussions/0/254946588...

remedan 3y ago

Here is a (probably not exhaustive) list: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always_Online_DRM#Always-online_DRM_games_that_have_already_shut_down https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always...

iLoveOncall 3y ago
This is an incredibly misleading link. Most of those are online-only games that have been shutdown (or the multiplayer part of the game has been), it's not at all the same as having a DRM that needs to reach a server for a purely solo experience.
- remedan 3y ago
  Sure, but there are also single-player games on the list. You asked for a source that such a thing happens. The link proves that it does.
  - iLoveOncall 3y ago
    Again, it doesn't prove anything. If you see the top of the table it says "Specifically games no longer listed as being available for sale through any means.". It doesn't mean you can't play the game if you already acquired it... I have Steam games that aren't sold anywhere anymore but I can still install and play them just fine.

TeaDude 3y ago

Just off the top of my head, Ross Scott on youtube (AccursedFarms) has plenty of videos on the subject. A few of them are tucked away in reviews but he now has a dedicated "dead game news" series. These may not be games you'd want to play but the important message is that it's concerning that the biggest publishers (Ubisoft, EA etc.) can release stuff that will randomly die at some point in the future for no good reason and that they won't even release a patch or server software so you can play the product you paid them for.

iLoveOncall 3y ago
You're talking about games that were online-only where the servers have been shutdown. This is not at all what the comment I'm responding to is about, which is games that rely on a DRM that connects to the internet to validate your installation, meaning that even full solo, fully offline games would stop working.
- brokenmachine 3y ago
  There's lots of games where even the single player campaign needs servers to use.

Rinzler89 3y ago

From memory: Assassin's Creed 2, Hitman 2,3, etc.

MikusR 3y ago
AC2 only the multiplayer is missing. Game itself works.

orangeboats 3y ago

Remember Games for Windows Live? Pretty sure the original version of GTA4 is no longer playable without cracking it due to GFWL being shut down.

ChoGGi 3y ago
Microsoft released a version of gfwl that uses Xbox servers.

p0w3n3d 3y ago

https://www.techdirt.com/2021/07/06/drm-strikes-again-ubisoft-makes-own-game-unplayable-shutting-down-drm-server/ https://www.techdirt.com/2021/07/06/drm-strikes-again-ubisof...

iLoveOncall 3y ago
Only online features are disabled.

p0w3n3d 3y ago

https://steamcommunity.com/app/19680/discussions/0/2549465882933664814/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/19680/discussions/0/254946588...