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That’s called whataboutism… Is there no legitimate criticism in your mind? Nothing worth changing or improving? That seems shockingly arrogant. Other states hav

That’s called whataboutism… Is there no legitimate criticism in your mind? Nothing worth changing or improving? That seems shockingly arrogant. Other states have their issues but I don’t live there so I don’t care as much—I want California to get its shit together because I live here and raise my kids here. It’s clear as day to my eyes that California quality of life has fallen since the 1990s… who cares if home prices annd incomes are up but everything else is so getting worse by the day? Rule of law is barely holding on for its life…

hot_gril 3y ago
There are legitimate criticisms and things to change, but it mostly applies to other states too. "Gripped by economic problems" is not one of them, and the state isn't in decline either. As I said elsewhere though, SF is one exception that I'd say is truly terrible because they shot themselves in the foot with a weird combination of far-left policies and corporate lobbying. What I do is consistently vote for harsher criminal justice and political candidates who at least acknowledge that illegal immigration is a problem here. This usually means moderate Republicans.
- diogenescynic 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism You're just deflecting. SF is a shithole now: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLka6qqp/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLka6qqp/ This is 10-20x bigger of a drug scene than 5 years ago. SFPD doesn't even bother doing anything now. It looks like something out or Robocop. The problem is LA is like that now, Oakland is worse, East bay cities are bad too. Central Valley has homeless all over too. The only cities that seem to be free of it are Palo Alto, Saratoga, Marin, Montecito, Palos Verdes, etc.--essentially the super rich enclaves that can afford to pay the homeless to go somewhere else or have the police harass them into moving somewhere less amenable.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    Whataboutism means point to some particular other place that's worse. I'm talking about the entire country. For a US state to meet your standards, we'd need a 51st state. And California in the 1990s wasn't that either. Again one exception, SF was nicer just 8 years ago, and probably better in the 90s before tech companies ruined it. That city is exactly how you describe it now. The rest of CA is not.

hot_gril 3y ago

There are legitimate criticisms and things to change, but it mostly applies to other states too. "Gripped by economic problems" is not one of them, and the state isn't in decline either. As I said elsewhere though, SF is one exception that I'd say is truly terrible because they shot themselves in the foot with a weird combination of far-left policies and corporate lobbying. What I do is consistently vote for harsher criminal justice and political candidates who at least acknowledge that illegal immigration is a problem here. This usually means moderate Republicans.

diogenescynic 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism You're just deflecting. SF is a shithole now: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLka6qqp/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLka6qqp/ This is 10-20x bigger of a drug scene than 5 years ago. SFPD doesn't even bother doing anything now. It looks like something out or Robocop. The problem is LA is like that now, Oakland is worse, East bay cities are bad too. Central Valley has homeless all over too. The only cities that seem to be free of it are Palo Alto, Saratoga, Marin, Montecito, Palos Verdes, etc.--essentially the super rich enclaves that can afford to pay the homeless to go somewhere else or have the police harass them into moving somewhere less amenable.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  Whataboutism means point to some particular other place that's worse. I'm talking about the entire country. For a US state to meet your standards, we'd need a 51st state. And California in the 1990s wasn't that either. Again one exception, SF was nicer just 8 years ago, and probably better in the 90s before tech companies ruined it. That city is exactly how you describe it now. The rest of CA is not.