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Have you actually lived in both California and Denmark? Denmark is a great place… if you’re Danish. A terrible place if you are immigrating from outside of Eur

by j7ake 3y ago

Have you actually lived in both California and Denmark? Denmark is a great place… if you’re Danish. A terrible place if you are immigrating from outside of Europe. Compared to California, Danish is more xenophobic, live in smaller homes, have worse restaurants, have fewer prestigious institutes, lower income, and have worse weather.

diogenescynic 3y ago
I’m not talking about where is a better place to immigrate. >live in smaller homes, have worse restaurants, have fewer prestigious institutes, lower income, and have worse weather. Yeah but those are only superficial things in the grand scheme of things. The things that actually matter like, home affordability, quality of public schools, quality of life, vacation time, hours worked per week, life expectancy, parental leave, etc. And yeah Danish food is kinda boring but they like it so who are we to complain. I used it as an example because their society actually benefits the average person like a teacher or railroad worker whereas in America/California if you aren’t working for a big tech company and in the top 15% of income you’re kinda not doing all that well compared to other developed countries. Most jobs in California don’t even offer paid parental leave… we’ve pathetically behind Europe but yeah.. we earn more if you don’t account for longer hours and all those pesky benefits like vacation or sick leave or parental leave.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  Education, opportunity, and freedom are not superficial. Denmark is an ok place where people can live ok lives, provided they tread carefully and keep everyone else out. And good weather shouldn't be taken for granted. It can affect your entire mood.
  - diogenescynic 3y ago
    So I guess vacation, hours worked per week, parental leave, life expectancy, and quality of life are all trivial to you… got it. Income is basically all you’re focusing on. People in Denmark are as free, if not more free. You’re just defining freedom as money. They get more time off, have free universities, and practically everyone makes a good/living wage and can take vacation and parental leave. Only Americans in the top 20% would have anything comparable to what their average McDonald’s worker has. Americans are much less free at our jobs than the Danish or average European—yay freedom/capitalism and right to work laws.
    - hot_gril 3y ago
      Freedom is not being stuck at one place in life and eating from the government's hand, with restricted speech to boot. Denmark is ok if you were born there or got in somehow, and it helps that they have natural resources. Kinda like Qatar* except with opposite extreme weather, it works at least. And I don't really care about time off to be honest, but if I did, I'd work as a contractor. * Btw, check out their non-tourist malls, all American chains. IHOP, Papa John's, censored Victoria's Secret. Corvettes and Suburbans parked outside... well they also have those cool Land Cruisers you can't get in the US anymore.
- j7ake 3y ago
  If you’re not talking about where is best place to immigrate then I agree with you. But people often confuse the “Danes are happiest people on earth” study as “immigrating there will make me happy”. Of course when people talk about where is best place to live, most people think it in terms of immigrating.
GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
> have worse restaurants I regularly fly to Copenhagen specifically to dine at Michelin star restaurants, some of the best in the world. Everything else is true about Denmark though
- senordevnyc 3y ago
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by j7ake 3y ago

diogenescynic 3y ago

I’m not talking about where is a better place to immigrate. >live in smaller homes, have worse restaurants, have fewer prestigious institutes, lower income, and have worse weather. Yeah but those are only superficial things in the grand scheme of things. The things that actually matter like, home affordability, quality of public schools, quality of life, vacation time, hours worked per week, life expectancy, parental leave, etc. And yeah Danish food is kinda boring but they like it so who are we to complain. I used it as an example because their society actually benefits the average person like a teacher or railroad worker whereas in America/California if you aren’t working for a big tech company and in the top 15% of income you’re kinda not doing all that well compared to other developed countries. Most jobs in California don’t even offer paid parental leave… we’ve pathetically behind Europe but yeah.. we earn more if you don’t account for longer hours and all those pesky benefits like vacation or sick leave or parental leave.

hot_gril 3y ago
Education, opportunity, and freedom are not superficial. Denmark is an ok place where people can live ok lives, provided they tread carefully and keep everyone else out. And good weather shouldn't be taken for granted. It can affect your entire mood.
- diogenescynic 3y ago
  So I guess vacation, hours worked per week, parental leave, life expectancy, and quality of life are all trivial to you… got it. Income is basically all you’re focusing on. People in Denmark are as free, if not more free. You’re just defining freedom as money. They get more time off, have free universities, and practically everyone makes a good/living wage and can take vacation and parental leave. Only Americans in the top 20% would have anything comparable to what their average McDonald’s worker has. Americans are much less free at our jobs than the Danish or average European—yay freedom/capitalism and right to work laws.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    Freedom is not being stuck at one place in life and eating from the government's hand, with restricted speech to boot. Denmark is ok if you were born there or got in somehow, and it helps that they have natural resources. Kinda like Qatar* except with opposite extreme weather, it works at least. And I don't really care about time off to be honest, but if I did, I'd work as a contractor. * Btw, check out their non-tourist malls, all American chains. IHOP, Papa John's, censored Victoria's Secret. Corvettes and Suburbans parked outside... well they also have those cool Land Cruisers you can't get in the US anymore.
j7ake 3y ago
If you’re not talking about where is best place to immigrate then I agree with you. But people often confuse the “Danes are happiest people on earth” study as “immigrating there will make me happy”. Of course when people talk about where is best place to live, most people think it in terms of immigrating.

GaryNumanVevo 3y ago

> have worse restaurants I regularly fly to Copenhagen specifically to dine at Michelin star restaurants, some of the best in the world. Everything else is true about Denmark though

senordevnyc 3y ago
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