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There is a cultural difference that make the situation in Vietnam not so bad as it sounds. In Korea, as in Japan, the cultural norm is to refer to people by the

by wrp 3y ago

There is a cultural difference that make the situation in Vietnam not so bad as it sounds. In Korea, as in Japan, the cultural norm is to refer to people by their family name. In Vietnamese culture, the given name is normally used.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
How is that even tenable in the present day in Korea? There would be dozens of Kims in any workplace.
- wrp 3y ago
  There are, and I've had conversations like this: A: Did you hear the news about Professor Kim? B: Professor Kim, our department head? A: No, Professor Kim over in Computer Science. B: Oh, that Professor Kim, whom we met at the New Year's party. A: No, that's a different Professor Kim. This one you never met. B: Anyway, what about this Professor Kim I never met? A: He got engaged to Miss Kim. B: Our department secretary? A: No, Miss Kim in the president's office. ...and so on.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    It seems by that point it would be more efficient to use full names 100% of the time. Or at least be less mentally stressful.
  - lifthrasiir 3y ago
    As a native Korean, I'm sure that both A and B will notice the confusion and switch to full names at around the fifth or sixth line. Korean full names tend to be short so it isn't cumbersome, in fact full names are often used in the first place exactly for that reason. The real problem by the way starts with multiple persons with the same or almost identically sounding names. My own name (Kang Seonghoon) for example is shared with at least 100s of other Korean people, including one famous singer who got arrested later ;-)
    - wrp 3y ago
      Good point about use of full names. Since you are a native, you might not have noticed this, but I find that as a foreigner operating in professional settings, I only hear people referred to in English as $title+$family_name. Aside from my office mate, I can't think of the given name of anyone on campus. Speaking of having identical names, the one that cracks me up is 김정은.

by wrp 3y ago

MichaelZuo 3y ago

How is that even tenable in the present day in Korea? There would be dozens of Kims in any workplace.

wrp 3y ago
There are, and I've had conversations like this: A: Did you hear the news about Professor Kim? B: Professor Kim, our department head? A: No, Professor Kim over in Computer Science. B: Oh, that Professor Kim, whom we met at the New Year's party. A: No, that's a different Professor Kim. This one you never met. B: Anyway, what about this Professor Kim I never met? A: He got engaged to Miss Kim. B: Our department secretary? A: No, Miss Kim in the president's office. ...and so on.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  It seems by that point it would be more efficient to use full names 100% of the time. Or at least be less mentally stressful.
- lifthrasiir 3y ago
  As a native Korean, I'm sure that both A and B will notice the confusion and switch to full names at around the fifth or sixth line. Korean full names tend to be short so it isn't cumbersome, in fact full names are often used in the first place exactly for that reason. The real problem by the way starts with multiple persons with the same or almost identically sounding names. My own name (Kang Seonghoon) for example is shared with at least 100s of other Korean people, including one famous singer who got arrested later ;-)
  - wrp 3y ago
    Good point about use of full names. Since you are a native, you might not have noticed this, but I find that as a foreigner operating in professional settings, I only hear people referred to in English as $title+$family_name. Aside from my office mate, I can't think of the given name of anyone on campus. Speaking of having identical names, the one that cracks me up is 김정은.