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You need data to confirm the assertion that collapsing hives spread disease? Since you're so married to whatever chip you've got on your shoulder you apparently

You need data to confirm the assertion that collapsing hives spread disease? Since you're so married to whatever chip you've got on your shoulder you apparently need a reminder that sick bees drifting to other hives and robbing out deadouts are both a thing I've appended a list of follow-up reading for your benefit. Martin SJ. The role of Varroa and viral pathogens in the collapse of honeybee colonies: a modeling approach. J Appl Ecol. 2001;38(5):1082-1093. [doi:10.1046/j.1365-2664.2001.00662.x] Rosenkranz P, Aumeier P, Ziegelmann B. Biology and control of Varroa destructor. J Invertebr Pathol. 2010;103 Suppl 1:S96-S119. [doi:10.1016/j.jip.2009.07.016] Graystock P, Blane EJ, McFrederick QS, Goulson D, Hughes WOH. Do managed bees drive parasite spread and emergence in wild bees? Int J Parasitol Parasites Wildl. 2016;5(1):64-75. [doi:10.1016/j.ijppaw.2015.12.001] With that out of the way not -all- breeding programs rely on artificial insemination, maybe you've heard of Mike Palmer? You know, the guy that basically singlehandedly mainstreamed keeping nucleus colonies as an apiary management strategy? Or Randy Oliver? No? Your loss I suppose. Go salve your feelings somewhere else, I'm done.

giantg2 3y ago
"You need data to confirm the assertion that collapsing hives spread disease?" Nope. What I need is data backing up your claim that it's a disease "bomb" for everything in a few mile area. I've seen some of those papers and other like them, but they do not support your hyperbolic claims. Had you claimed something reasonable, then they might be what you need. "With that out of the way not -all- breeding programs rely on artificial insemination, maybe you've heard of Mike Palmer? You know, the guy that basically singlehandedly mainstreamed keeping nucleus colonies as an apiary management strategy? Or Randy Oliver? No? Your loss I suppose." Of course I've heard of them. Both of them do promote IPM and genetic strategies for varroa. They might do open air breeding, but they also aren't strict about thier genetics. If you get a production queen they're not guaranteed to be VSH, but there's a good chance they are. Any beekeeper should be evaluating their stock regardless of claimed providence. "Go salve your feelings somewhere else, I'm done." Good, your insulting, close minded, and illogical discourse does not belong on HN.

giantg2 3y ago

"You need data to confirm the assertion that collapsing hives spread disease?" Nope. What I need is data backing up your claim that it's a disease "bomb" for everything in a few mile area. I've seen some of those papers and other like them, but they do not support your hyperbolic claims. Had you claimed something reasonable, then they might be what you need. "With that out of the way not -all- breeding programs rely on artificial insemination, maybe you've heard of Mike Palmer? You know, the guy that basically singlehandedly mainstreamed keeping nucleus colonies as an apiary management strategy? Or Randy Oliver? No? Your loss I suppose." Of course I've heard of them. Both of them do promote IPM and genetic strategies for varroa. They might do open air breeding, but they also aren't strict about thier genetics. If you get a production queen they're not guaranteed to be VSH, but there's a good chance they are. Any beekeeper should be evaluating their stock regardless of claimed providence. "Go salve your feelings somewhere else, I'm done." Good, your insulting, close minded, and illogical discourse does not belong on HN.