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Why does a private hospital's ER capacity dictate my ability to freely move about?

by bigtex 3y ago

th0ma5 3y ago
Because you live in a society.
- bigtex 3y ago
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  - doodlebugging 3y ago
    As a Texan, if you depend on our elected people to keep you informed about anything important you're probably backing the wrong horse. Unelected people like public health experts should always be important parts of any discussions about issues that affect the health and safety of all members of a community. They can work with elected representatives to help define policy and guidelines that protect our property and keep us all employed and healthy. Ignoring the input of unelected experts is dangerous to society and leads to exactly the conditions we have now where people chose sides based on partisan identity politics instead of solid pandemic management principles. We can't elect everyone who should have a voice in defining policy but we can consult them and take advantage of their expertise and skills when bad things happen. You don't gripe when other disasters like prairie fires require evacuation notices do you? Those people are also unelected. They are also recognized experts at their trades who spend their careers trying to keep us all safe.
  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    To others, it's important not to respond to trolls who only ask over-simplified, inaccurate rhetorical questions. When it's obvious that your answers will be an order of magnitude longer than any question or input they provide, it is too likely that they are unpersuadable, and are wasting your time on purpose.
  - stahtops 3y ago
    You live in a fantasy world. Here in the freedom loving state of California, not once did any person, LEO or not, tell me not to leave my house. Did Chuck Norris and the Texas Rangers lock you up? Where did the bad man touch you? The closest thing to lock down this country has seen in recent memory was Minneapolis police marching through the streets firing paint rounds at people standing on their own front porch during protests about George Floyd.
  - outworlder 3y ago
    > So un-elected people can decide when I can't leave my house then? Nobody has ever told you that you couldn't leave the house. You could leave the house any time you wanted. What you couldn't do is partake in activities that would gather crowds.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      >What you couldn't do is partake in activities that would gather crowds. Which was 100% unenforced in nearly every state. Most places with "lockdowns" had several verified superspreader events How many people ended up fined or in jail during "lockdowns"?
  - knowaveragejoe 3y ago
    You can leave your house, but don't be surprised when people call you out for unsafe behavior when an airbone pathogen is going around killing people
mindslight 3y ago
Because the goal was really to close businesses rather than forcing service/retail workers to serve as a Petri dish. Politicians/bureaucrats are intrinsically authoritarian and often overshoot with simplistic heavy handed responses. Then a political movement formed around acting like idiots out of spite, cementing the opposing positions. I was in a blue state that issued a strongly worded stay at home recommendation, but no "lockdown" with legal force. It worked great, owing in part to still having some sense of social cohesion. When your society can't get through novel disruptions with leadership informally keeping most everybody on the same page, that's what you should be worried about.
doodlebugging 3y ago
Just a bit of a SWAG (Scientific, Wild-Ass Guess) here but it looks like this is probably not you. [0] [0] https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/state-fair/2020/09/16/for-the-first-time-dallas-iconic-big-tex-wears-a-mask-during-state-fair-season/ https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/state-fair/202...
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Why does a private hospital's ER capacity dictate my ability to freely move about?

by bigtex 3y ago

Why does a private hospital's ER capacity dictate my ability to freely move about?

th0ma5 3y ago

Because you live in a society.

bigtex 3y ago
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- deleted 3y ago
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- doodlebugging 3y ago
  As a Texan, if you depend on our elected people to keep you informed about anything important you're probably backing the wrong horse. Unelected people like public health experts should always be important parts of any discussions about issues that affect the health and safety of all members of a community. They can work with elected representatives to help define policy and guidelines that protect our property and keep us all employed and healthy. Ignoring the input of unelected experts is dangerous to society and leads to exactly the conditions we have now where people chose sides based on partisan identity politics instead of solid pandemic management principles. We can't elect everyone who should have a voice in defining policy but we can consult them and take advantage of their expertise and skills when bad things happen. You don't gripe when other disasters like prairie fires require evacuation notices do you? Those people are also unelected. They are also recognized experts at their trades who spend their careers trying to keep us all safe.
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  To others, it's important not to respond to trolls who only ask over-simplified, inaccurate rhetorical questions. When it's obvious that your answers will be an order of magnitude longer than any question or input they provide, it is too likely that they are unpersuadable, and are wasting your time on purpose.
- stahtops 3y ago
  You live in a fantasy world. Here in the freedom loving state of California, not once did any person, LEO or not, tell me not to leave my house. Did Chuck Norris and the Texas Rangers lock you up? Where did the bad man touch you? The closest thing to lock down this country has seen in recent memory was Minneapolis police marching through the streets firing paint rounds at people standing on their own front porch during protests about George Floyd.
- outworlder 3y ago
  > So un-elected people can decide when I can't leave my house then? Nobody has ever told you that you couldn't leave the house. You could leave the house any time you wanted. What you couldn't do is partake in activities that would gather crowds.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    >What you couldn't do is partake in activities that would gather crowds. Which was 100% unenforced in nearly every state. Most places with "lockdowns" had several verified superspreader events How many people ended up fined or in jail during "lockdowns"?
- knowaveragejoe 3y ago
  You can leave your house, but don't be surprised when people call you out for unsafe behavior when an airbone pathogen is going around killing people

mindslight 3y ago

Because the goal was really to close businesses rather than forcing service/retail workers to serve as a Petri dish. Politicians/bureaucrats are intrinsically authoritarian and often overshoot with simplistic heavy handed responses. Then a political movement formed around acting like idiots out of spite, cementing the opposing positions. I was in a blue state that issued a strongly worded stay at home recommendation, but no "lockdown" with legal force. It worked great, owing in part to still having some sense of social cohesion. When your society can't get through novel disruptions with leadership informally keeping most everybody on the same page, that's what you should be worried about.

doodlebugging 3y ago

Just a bit of a SWAG (Scientific, Wild-Ass Guess) here but it looks like this is probably not you. [0] [0] https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/state-fair/2020/09/16/for-the-first-time-dallas-iconic-big-tex-wears-a-mask-during-state-fair-season/ https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/state-fair/202...

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