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It would be really interesting if laws worked like this. If violent crime is too high, alcohol sales are shortened by an hour. This continues until violent crim

It would be really interesting if laws worked like this. If violent crime is too high, alcohol sales are shortened by an hour. This continues until violent crime is low. Same thing with drunk driving. In fact, bars need to have some culpability as well if a lot of their patrons are causing destruction. Maybe this will encourage them to self-police and not over-serve.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
Most, if not all, bars and/or bartenders already have culpability for “over serving”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dram_shop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dram_shop >Within the United States, laws that impose potential liability upon businesses that sell alcohol for injuries caused by their patrons are usually called dram shop laws or dram shop acts
- ortusdux 3y ago
  It will be interesting if/when they make cheap optical blood alc sensors.
UncleEntity 3y ago
This gets me all teary eyed thinking how in olden times it took a literal constitutional amendment to make something illegal.
- janalsncm 3y ago
  If your point is that back in the day people had more freedom than now, I think this is wrong. The US used to be a lot more strict about what you were allowed to say and do. For example Charles Schenck from the Supreme Court case which gave us the phrase “shouting fire in a crowded theater” had nothing to do with fire or movies. He was convicted for handing out antiwar pamphlets and sentenced to 30 years in prison. It wasn’t until 1969 that speech laws loosened in the US.
RecycledEle 3y ago
> bars need to have some culpability as well if a lot of their patrons are causing destruction. By your reasoning, I should be able to sue a gas station that sells gas to someone without first checking to make sure their car is well maintained, that they have a valid drivers license and liability insurance, that they are sober, are mot impaired by medical issues, and that they do not have too many points on their license. There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. I mean, if it saves one child's life then it's worth a little infringement in your "rights." Your vote would not have made a difference. Now you can do something productive instead of standing in line at the polling place, like reading a civics textbook. I hear Ron Paul' Campaign for Liberty sells a good one.
- ambichook 3y ago
  > There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. hard pass. what nations need is more participation in democracy, not less. i agree that a law that makes the bar culpable for patrons actions is probably incredibly stupid, but a law that makes it illegal for people to vote because their opinions are different from yours? what?
  - RecycledEle 3y ago
    >> There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. > hard pass I apologize that my sarcasm did not come through.
BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago
Can we not please. Bad enough other drugs are so criminalized.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

Most, if not all, bars and/or bartenders already have culpability for “over serving”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dram_shop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dram_shop >Within the United States, laws that impose potential liability upon businesses that sell alcohol for injuries caused by their patrons are usually called dram shop laws or dram shop acts

ortusdux 3y ago
It will be interesting if/when they make cheap optical blood alc sensors.

UncleEntity 3y ago

This gets me all teary eyed thinking how in olden times it took a literal constitutional amendment to make something illegal.

janalsncm 3y ago
If your point is that back in the day people had more freedom than now, I think this is wrong. The US used to be a lot more strict about what you were allowed to say and do. For example Charles Schenck from the Supreme Court case which gave us the phrase “shouting fire in a crowded theater” had nothing to do with fire or movies. He was convicted for handing out antiwar pamphlets and sentenced to 30 years in prison. It wasn’t until 1969 that speech laws loosened in the US.

RecycledEle 3y ago

> bars need to have some culpability as well if a lot of their patrons are causing destruction. By your reasoning, I should be able to sue a gas station that sells gas to someone without first checking to make sure their car is well maintained, that they have a valid drivers license and liability insurance, that they are sober, are mot impaired by medical issues, and that they do not have too many points on their license. There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. I mean, if it saves one child's life then it's worth a little infringement in your "rights." Your vote would not have made a difference. Now you can do something productive instead of standing in line at the polling place, like reading a civics textbook. I hear Ron Paul' Campaign for Liberty sells a good one.

ambichook 3y ago
> There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. hard pass. what nations need is more participation in democracy, not less. i agree that a law that makes the bar culpable for patrons actions is probably incredibly stupid, but a law that makes it illegal for people to vote because their opinions are different from yours? what?
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  >> There outta be a law against registering people to vote if they want nanny-states. > hard pass I apologize that my sarcasm did not come through.

BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago

Can we not please. Bad enough other drugs are so criminalized.