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This is not obvious to literally anyone. You've never met or heard about a perfectly fit person in the prime of their life getting a stage 4 diagnosis of somet

by jf22 3y ago

This is not obvious to literally anyone. You've never met or heard about a perfectly fit person in the prime of their life getting a stage 4 diagnosis of something or other?

Solvency 3y ago
sure have. my cousin is a personal trainer who ran a gym studio from his garage. Was in great external physical shape. And his house reeked of mold. Absolutely insanely smelly. My wife warned him for years because she's sensitive to the odor, and he just completely refused to accept that there was mold in the house or that it was a problem or that there was any smell at all. he was later found to have stage2 cancer. just because he looked good, was he ACTUALLY good? no. sleep apnea. aching joints. a random bout of shingles at the age of 39. the list of "things" goes on, and most people have lists like this that they refuse to examine or consider as building blocks of a potentially encroaching larger issue. again, because of fear.
- SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
  The problem is you're treating these like signs of cancer when they aren't. People with mold in their house don't necessarily have cancer, people who get shingles don't necessarily have cancer, aching joints is less than useless as a measure for cancer. You're working backwards, now anything that's incorrect with someone is proof if they ever develop cancer while ignoring everyone who doesn't.
- gr8r 3y ago
  Somewhat tangential question, can someone briefly say how mold is related to cancer? Also isn't mold somewhat common in American homes?
- gosub100 3y ago
  You could blame it on anything you want because you're not using science. You could say it was radio waves, vaccines, processed foods, or micro plastics. You would never be wrong because the ones who haven't gotten cancer just didn't get enough exposure yet.
bequanna 3y ago
Well, I think what the parent comment is trying to say is that we’ve made it socially acceptable to live in an unhealthy way and many of the “obvious” conditions that are precursors to serious disease like obesity, over medication, chronic inflammation, etc are just accepted. However, we should be making it clear that unhealthy lifestyles result in bad outcomes. This was all very obvious before we started to muddy the waters with our blank check acceptance of bad choices (fat acceptance, etc).
- jf22 3y ago
  I don't disagree with the premise we've issued blank checks for unhealthy lifestyles, but I disagree that's what the parent comment was saying. Asking people to self diagnose inflammation is a lot different than understanding that being overweight is unhealthy.

by jf22 3y ago

This is not obvious to literally anyone. You've never met or heard about a perfectly fit person in the prime of their life getting a stage 4 diagnosis of something or other?

Solvency 3y ago

sure have. my cousin is a personal trainer who ran a gym studio from his garage. Was in great external physical shape. And his house reeked of mold. Absolutely insanely smelly. My wife warned him for years because she's sensitive to the odor, and he just completely refused to accept that there was mold in the house or that it was a problem or that there was any smell at all. he was later found to have stage2 cancer. just because he looked good, was he ACTUALLY good? no. sleep apnea. aching joints. a random bout of shingles at the age of 39. the list of "things" goes on, and most people have lists like this that they refuse to examine or consider as building blocks of a potentially encroaching larger issue. again, because of fear.

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
The problem is you're treating these like signs of cancer when they aren't. People with mold in their house don't necessarily have cancer, people who get shingles don't necessarily have cancer, aching joints is less than useless as a measure for cancer. You're working backwards, now anything that's incorrect with someone is proof if they ever develop cancer while ignoring everyone who doesn't.
gr8r 3y ago
Somewhat tangential question, can someone briefly say how mold is related to cancer? Also isn't mold somewhat common in American homes?
gosub100 3y ago
You could blame it on anything you want because you're not using science. You could say it was radio waves, vaccines, processed foods, or micro plastics. You would never be wrong because the ones who haven't gotten cancer just didn't get enough exposure yet.

bequanna 3y ago

Well, I think what the parent comment is trying to say is that we’ve made it socially acceptable to live in an unhealthy way and many of the “obvious” conditions that are precursors to serious disease like obesity, over medication, chronic inflammation, etc are just accepted. However, we should be making it clear that unhealthy lifestyles result in bad outcomes. This was all very obvious before we started to muddy the waters with our blank check acceptance of bad choices (fat acceptance, etc).

jf22 3y ago
I don't disagree with the premise we've issued blank checks for unhealthy lifestyles, but I disagree that's what the parent comment was saying. Asking people to self diagnose inflammation is a lot different than understanding that being overweight is unhealthy.