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This is patently false. Coronary heart disease is extremely prevalent in India, which has a very large number of vegetarians and an extremely low population of

This is patently false. Coronary heart disease is extremely prevalent in India, which has a very large number of vegetarians and an extremely low population of beef eaters.

ChadNYC 3y ago
“meat & dairy” It is not false.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
Dairy products have a lot of saturated fat, especially cream, butter, clarified butter (ghee), paneer, and cheese, all popular in India.
- m0llusk 3y ago
  This is true but not necessarily related as saturated fat is no longer considered strongly related to heart disease. Arterial plaques are blood clots, not fat deposits.
  - devonkim 3y ago
    Also read something casually that (I am suspecting probably falsified but a new one at least) that plastics were found in a lot of cardiovascular deposits following autopsies.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    I don’t have the capability to verify Wikipedia, but right now it says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheroma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheroma > The material consists of mostly macrophage cells,[3][4] or debris, containing lipids, calcium and a variable amount of fibrous connective tissue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis > Risk factors include abnormal cholesterol levels, elevated levels of inflammatory biomarkers,[11] high blood pressure, diabetes, smoking (both active and passive smoking), obesity, genetic factors, family history, lifestyle habits, and an unhealthy diet.[4] Plaque is made up of fat, cholesterol, calcium, and other substances found in the blood.[9] If the above is true, then are the aforementioned lipids, cholesterol, and fat not affected by fat consumption, specifically saturated fat?
naveen99 3y ago
Maybe there are other factors at play, like poverty and lack of recreational exercise https://www.statista.com/statistics/522015/time-spent-sports-countries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/522015/time-spent-sports...
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  It’s just bad diets. 30 years ago, it would be a struggle to find overweight people in any village in India. Absolutely rare to see an overweight child. But during those decades, food became relatively cheap, especially carbs and sat fats, and Indian food is loaded with sugar/oil/cream/etc. It’s delicious, and do-able once in a while, especially if you have to sit around without air conditioning. But start eating all those sweets and fried foods every other day while sitting in air conditioned offices and cars, and no amount of exercise is going to help.
  - naveen99 3y ago
    It’s hard to sit and exercise at the same time.
anshumankmr 3y ago
Have you seen the obnoxious amount of oil Indian people and restaurants use? You will lose your mind. Source: am Indian
cageface 3y ago
Much Indian food is very dairy heavy, which brings with it a lot of cholesterol.
- loopdoend 3y ago
  Dairy is loaded with Neu5Gc...

This is patently false. Coronary heart disease is extremely prevalent in India, which has a very large number of vegetarians and an extremely low population of beef eaters.

ChadNYC 3y ago

“meat & dairy” It is not false.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

Dairy products have a lot of saturated fat, especially cream, butter, clarified butter (ghee), paneer, and cheese, all popular in India.

m0llusk 3y ago
This is true but not necessarily related as saturated fat is no longer considered strongly related to heart disease. Arterial plaques are blood clots, not fat deposits.
- devonkim 3y ago
  Also read something casually that (I am suspecting probably falsified but a new one at least) that plastics were found in a lot of cardiovascular deposits following autopsies.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  I don’t have the capability to verify Wikipedia, but right now it says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheroma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheroma > The material consists of mostly macrophage cells,[3][4] or debris, containing lipids, calcium and a variable amount of fibrous connective tissue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis > Risk factors include abnormal cholesterol levels, elevated levels of inflammatory biomarkers,[11] high blood pressure, diabetes, smoking (both active and passive smoking), obesity, genetic factors, family history, lifestyle habits, and an unhealthy diet.[4] Plaque is made up of fat, cholesterol, calcium, and other substances found in the blood.[9] If the above is true, then are the aforementioned lipids, cholesterol, and fat not affected by fat consumption, specifically saturated fat?

naveen99 3y ago

Maybe there are other factors at play, like poverty and lack of recreational exercise https://www.statista.com/statistics/522015/time-spent-sports-countries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/522015/time-spent-sports...

lotsofpulp 3y ago
It’s just bad diets. 30 years ago, it would be a struggle to find overweight people in any village in India. Absolutely rare to see an overweight child. But during those decades, food became relatively cheap, especially carbs and sat fats, and Indian food is loaded with sugar/oil/cream/etc. It’s delicious, and do-able once in a while, especially if you have to sit around without air conditioning. But start eating all those sweets and fried foods every other day while sitting in air conditioned offices and cars, and no amount of exercise is going to help.
- naveen99 3y ago
  It’s hard to sit and exercise at the same time.

anshumankmr 3y ago

Have you seen the obnoxious amount of oil Indian people and restaurants use? You will lose your mind. Source: am Indian

cageface 3y ago

Much Indian food is very dairy heavy, which brings with it a lot of cholesterol.

loopdoend 3y ago
Dairy is loaded with Neu5Gc...