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Will people still derive pleasure from creating things if there is an AI that is much better at creating things than you? Take game development for example, I

Will people still derive pleasure from creating things if there is an AI that is much better at creating things than you? Take game development for example, I enjoy writing games but would I enjoy it as much if any random person could create a game much better than anything I could make myself? I’m not sure. It would be like performing to an empty room. Without any audience, is there pleasure in creation?

brushfoot 3y ago
Humans can't even agree on what it's best to create. Try asking ChatGPT if you should become vegan, for example. AI is a mediocre mashup of millions of ideas. It needs a driving force telling it what to be and how to react. "Then there will be AIs trained to create certain things" -- and that's the point. People's ideals go deep, and achieving them is time-consuming and labor intensive, even with the help of AI. Someone, many someones, will need to be there guiding it every step of the way, through robotics, through politics, through religion. And that's a kind of programming.
wcedmisten 3y ago
Kurt Vonnegut, in a letter response to a high schooler asking for advice: Here’s an assignment for tonight, and I hope Ms. Lockwood will flunk you if you don’t do it: Write a six line poem, about anything, but rhymed. Make it as good as you possibly can. But don’t tell anybody what you’re doing. Don’t show it or recite it to anybody, not even your girlfriend or parents or whatever, or Ms. Lockwood. OK? Tear it up into teeny-weeny pieces, and discard them... You will find that you have already been gloriously rewarded for your poem. You have experienced becoming, learned a lot more about what’s inside you, and you have made your soul grow.
- silverquiet 3y ago
  Interestingly that sounds like something that would work better for introverts, but either way you've got to find some work to pay the bills, and that means providing something that other people perceive as valuable.
  - bamboozled 3y ago
    Doesn't the machine pay the bills in the future? Isn't that why we're building them?
bamboozled 3y ago
The answer is yes, I'm a crappy wood worker compared to a master craftsman, I still love it. I love growing tomatoes, even though I'm not a pro and people are better at it than me. I surf even though there are people 50x better at it than me. I know that. You don't do something to be the best, you do it because it's enjoyable.

brushfoot 3y ago

Humans can't even agree on what it's best to create. Try asking ChatGPT if you should become vegan, for example. AI is a mediocre mashup of millions of ideas. It needs a driving force telling it what to be and how to react. "Then there will be AIs trained to create certain things" -- and that's the point. People's ideals go deep, and achieving them is time-consuming and labor intensive, even with the help of AI. Someone, many someones, will need to be there guiding it every step of the way, through robotics, through politics, through religion. And that's a kind of programming.

wcedmisten 3y ago

Kurt Vonnegut, in a letter response to a high schooler asking for advice: Here’s an assignment for tonight, and I hope Ms. Lockwood will flunk you if you don’t do it: Write a six line poem, about anything, but rhymed. Make it as good as you possibly can. But don’t tell anybody what you’re doing. Don’t show it or recite it to anybody, not even your girlfriend or parents or whatever, or Ms. Lockwood. OK? Tear it up into teeny-weeny pieces, and discard them... You will find that you have already been gloriously rewarded for your poem. You have experienced becoming, learned a lot more about what’s inside you, and you have made your soul grow.

silverquiet 3y ago
Interestingly that sounds like something that would work better for introverts, but either way you've got to find some work to pay the bills, and that means providing something that other people perceive as valuable.
- bamboozled 3y ago
  Doesn't the machine pay the bills in the future? Isn't that why we're building them?

bamboozled 3y ago

The answer is yes, I'm a crappy wood worker compared to a master craftsman, I still love it. I love growing tomatoes, even though I'm not a pro and people are better at it than me. I surf even though there are people 50x better at it than me. I know that. You don't do something to be the best, you do it because it's enjoyable.