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I think of this as what does it mean to be human and what craft do we enjoy - does knowing that chess engines can beat most of us take away the fun of playing c

I think of this as what does it mean to be human and what craft do we enjoy - does knowing that chess engines can beat most of us take away the fun of playing chess with another person. Similarily does knowing that an factory can mass produce my furniture take away the pleasure of making a chair with my hand - there will be place for both as well as there will be new kinds of chairs to be made with AI. Hitherto we have always thought of software as one for many - the aspects of adoption of software is left to humans. Maybe we will shift more of our skills to higher level skills - how do we make more enjoyable products rather than how do we learn the nuance of programming languages, software paradigms and we may evolve software and technical paradigms around these. I doubt this is the age of the death of building. We will just invent and build new things. Generative Media by AI - while dystopian can also make us think what does media really means - will there be more value on in-person media rather than digital media? Will it also mean we have a larger spectrum of artists who can now create - not just books and blogs but multi-media experiences that are immersive worlds/moments?

barrenko 3y ago
Did photography replace drawing? Of course not. Did instagram kill photography? No, but it made photography as a career choice a much more complicated decision. It will probably be similar for AI and programming.
jodrellblank 3y ago
Does mass production take away your pleasure of making a jet engine or smartphone by hand? A pleasure which never existed, you couldn’t do it by hand if you wanted to. Maybe we’re maxing out what teams of human scale coders can build, and when factory made code becomes a thing it will be so far ahead, so much bigger, that we will be left with the equivalent of the option of building a chair (yesteryear and basic) but not building a bike or car or plane or anything modern.
anonzzzies 3y ago
> does knowing that chess engines can beat most of us take away the fun of playing chess with another person. It did for me: I tried it a few times but now that my phone can beat me every time, it feels like a total waste of time to me. It’s personal, but I definitely don’t enjoy it anymore, not against a human nor a computer.
logtempo 3y ago
The problem is not pleasure or meaning of life. It is production, competition and economy. Always have been in the past centuries. > Maybe we will shift more of our skills to higher level skills Exactly, that's what happened with the second industrial revolution: in Europe and USA, it take form as the bloom of tertiary work being the first employer. But we are facing the limits (or consequences as we prefer to call it) of such growth: limits in energy, materials, environment. We'll face the same limits for AI.

barrenko 3y ago

Did photography replace drawing? Of course not. Did instagram kill photography? No, but it made photography as a career choice a much more complicated decision. It will probably be similar for AI and programming.

jodrellblank 3y ago

Does mass production take away your pleasure of making a jet engine or smartphone by hand? A pleasure which never existed, you couldn’t do it by hand if you wanted to. Maybe we’re maxing out what teams of human scale coders can build, and when factory made code becomes a thing it will be so far ahead, so much bigger, that we will be left with the equivalent of the option of building a chair (yesteryear and basic) but not building a bike or car or plane or anything modern.

anonzzzies 3y ago

> does knowing that chess engines can beat most of us take away the fun of playing chess with another person. It did for me: I tried it a few times but now that my phone can beat me every time, it feels like a total waste of time to me. It’s personal, but I definitely don’t enjoy it anymore, not against a human nor a computer.

logtempo 3y ago

The problem is not pleasure or meaning of life. It is production, competition and economy. Always have been in the past centuries. > Maybe we will shift more of our skills to higher level skills Exactly, that's what happened with the second industrial revolution: in Europe and USA, it take form as the bloom of tertiary work being the first employer. But we are facing the limits (or consequences as we prefer to call it) of such growth: limits in energy, materials, environment. We'll face the same limits for AI.