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Like I said a limit of one pseudonym on top of the real identity. If everyone knows everyone else is hard limited to a max of 1 pseudonym, then they wouldn’t be

Like I said a limit of one pseudonym on top of the real identity. If everyone knows everyone else is hard limited to a max of 1 pseudonym, then they wouldn’t be afraid any longer.

Terr_ 3y ago
> hard limited to a max of 1 pseudonym A single combined pseudonym that becomes permanently useless for the rest of your life once it eventually accumulates enough little hints and other metadata across all services to get dox-able to your real identity? Hell no! [0] Even if it can be "killed" in favor of a secret successor pseudonym, that's still terrible, because the limited-life and periodic social death aspect is still there, and because humans regularly have different sides in different social contexts. Who wants to screen online dates with the same pseudonym used for asking resume advice? > then [people afraid of sockpuppets and impersonators] wouldn’t be afraid any longer If you're that afraid that a pseudonymous account isn't real, you know what? You just ask them to positively authenticate before extending any trust! Why should everyone else in the world submit to a dystopian panopticon, merely to satisfy your lack of due-diligence and/or anxiety to avoid confrontation? [0] Would you use the same password everywhere on the internet too? Similar risk-management issues arise here.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
  > services to get dox-able to your real identity? Hell no! [0] […] Would you use the same password everywhere on the internet too? Similar risk-management issues arise here. I'm not sure this follows. It's clear that reusing a password is a bad idea, and more importantly a password is supposed to be secret. Identities _usually_ are not. It's clearly different in the context of Open Source but you would not go into many commercial transactions without verifying the person on the other side. In quite a few countries (eg: Germany) cannot even voluntarily change your name and your personal information in many ways is required to be public (Impressumspflicht). Sweden maybe goes even further by making tax records public. If that was the same situation as with passwords then life in those countries would not work.

Like I said a limit of one pseudonym on top of the real identity. If everyone knows everyone else is hard limited to a max of 1 pseudonym, then they wouldn’t be afraid any longer.

Terr_ 3y ago

> hard limited to a max of 1 pseudonym A single combined pseudonym that becomes permanently useless for the rest of your life once it eventually accumulates enough little hints and other metadata across all services to get dox-able to your real identity? Hell no! [0] Even if it can be "killed" in favor of a secret successor pseudonym, that's still terrible, because the limited-life and periodic social death aspect is still there, and because humans regularly have different sides in different social contexts. Who wants to screen online dates with the same pseudonym used for asking resume advice? > then [people afraid of sockpuppets and impersonators] wouldn’t be afraid any longer If you're that afraid that a pseudonymous account isn't real, you know what? You just ask them to positively authenticate before extending any trust! Why should everyone else in the world submit to a dystopian panopticon, merely to satisfy your lack of due-diligence and/or anxiety to avoid confrontation? [0] Would you use the same password everywhere on the internet too? Similar risk-management issues arise here.

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
> services to get dox-able to your real identity? Hell no! [0] […] Would you use the same password everywhere on the internet too? Similar risk-management issues arise here. I'm not sure this follows. It's clear that reusing a password is a bad idea, and more importantly a password is supposed to be secret. Identities _usually_ are not. It's clearly different in the context of Open Source but you would not go into many commercial transactions without verifying the person on the other side. In quite a few countries (eg: Germany) cannot even voluntarily change your name and your personal information in many ways is required to be public (Impressumspflicht). Sweden maybe goes even further by making tax records public. If that was the same situation as with passwords then life in those countries would not work.