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Lately Japan just does not seem like it used to be. The flood of gaijins have totally turned off the public as wages stagnate while inflation drives cost of goo

by spxneo 3y ago

Lately Japan just does not seem like it used to be. The flood of gaijins have totally turned off the public as wages stagnate while inflation drives cost of goods. Just looking at some of the subreddits around living in Japan, the desperation is obvious as gaijins also feel the inflationary pressure. 10 years ago you it would've been impossible to find rude staff but now it becomes routine as the average Japanese workers patience has been pushed to teh brink. Its not as bad as Canada but definitely a shock to see how crappy tourist experience has gotten in Japan. ymmv

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shiroiushi 3y ago
>Just looking at some of the subreddits around living in Japan, the desperation is obvious as gaijins also feel the inflationary pressure. Please take anything you see on the Japan-related subreddits with a container ship full of salt. The people who hang out on there are even worse than the Americans you'll see on NextDoor. Half of them seem to absolutely hate their life in Japan and are obviously bitter about their life choices, and most of the rest are just plain crazy. /r/japanlife is the absolute worst; I recommend staying far away from there. >10 years ago you it would've been impossible to find rude staff but now it becomes routine as the average Japanese workers patience has been pushed to teh brink. Its not as bad as Canada but definitely a shock to see how crappy tourist experience has gotten in Japan. Maybe you're only visiting restaurants in the tourist-filled parts of town, but I live in Tokyo and I haven't had any problems with rude staff (yet). Honestly, I still feel like I'm living in some kind of bubble, because the stuff I read on the news about happenings in the US and other western countries, even in daily life (like restaurant staff), and what I hear from my family in the US, is SO incongruent with my life in Tokyo. It's true that prices have gone up for many things, but other than that, life here is peaceful and good.
- bombcar 3y ago
  In general most of what you read anywhere is from either rabid fans or rabid complainers. Nobody else really bothers to even think about talking about whatever it is online. Always important to remember.
- djtango 3y ago
  Yeah crime has definitely worsened in London especially in my local area palpably in the time I've been in Singapore meanwhile over here things have gotten more expensive but we don't have violence on the streets. I didn't realise how much I value feeling safe until I left
- emodendroket 3y ago
  > Please take anything you see on the Japan-related subreddits with a container ship full of salt. The people who hang out on there are even worse than the Americans you'll see on NextDoor. Half of them seem to absolutely hate their life in Japan and are obviously bitter about their life choices, and most of the rest are just plain crazy. /r/japanlife is the absolute worst; I recommend staying far away from there. I think it's pretty easy to start out doing English teaching or whatever and before you know it you've been out of school 5 or 10 years and have basically the same level of earning power and marketable skills as any generic new grad, so it's easy to see how people would end up feeling trapped
- spxneo 3y ago
  yeah i always feel like these subreddits are off like its an echo chamber for jaded gaijins who can't handle seeing happy gaijins glad to hear so many ppl having a complete opposite time
brailsafe 3y ago
Seemed fine to me, didn't get racist vibes from anyone, most of the Japanese I meet here in Canada seem to be enjoying it, but cost of living is definitely a concern in both places
kcnenskcfn 3y ago
the rude workers are usually not japanese
vavooom 3y ago
Just traveled there and had zero bad experiences!! Kyoto maybe an exception for obvious reason given the swell of tourism they face these days and how un-polite the average tourist can be sadly.
- pezezin 3y ago
  Kyoto people also have a reputation for being a bit snobby and closed minded, even for Japanese standards, I would not take their complaints too seriously.
ryan_lane 3y ago
I live here and don't have this experience at all. I rarely get bad service, and effectively never get rude service. Maybe this is a difference in the places we're going. I avoid most tourist areas, and also tend to avoid restaurants that are for tourists. Even with that, I'd be surprised, because tourist places are that way because they cater to tourists, and why would you be rude to the people you're targeting? Are you maybe expecting that people feel this way and projecting these thoughts onto them? It's worth noting that tourism levels are still lower than pre-covid, so again, it would be a bit surprising that people would be at their boiling points.
kalleboo 3y ago
The majority of foreigners on English-language forums like Reddit are Americans stuck paying back their crazy student loans, and for that an Assistant to the Language Teacher income plus the cheapening yen is going to make their lives hell, I don't blame them for being bitter.
bboygravity 3y ago
Wait are you saying that you think inflation in Japan is due to foreigners? Hint: its not. Hint: Bank of Japan.

by spxneo 3y ago

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shiroiushi 3y ago

>Just looking at some of the subreddits around living in Japan, the desperation is obvious as gaijins also feel the inflationary pressure. Please take anything you see on the Japan-related subreddits with a container ship full of salt. The people who hang out on there are even worse than the Americans you'll see on NextDoor. Half of them seem to absolutely hate their life in Japan and are obviously bitter about their life choices, and most of the rest are just plain crazy. /r/japanlife is the absolute worst; I recommend staying far away from there. >10 years ago you it would've been impossible to find rude staff but now it becomes routine as the average Japanese workers patience has been pushed to teh brink. Its not as bad as Canada but definitely a shock to see how crappy tourist experience has gotten in Japan. Maybe you're only visiting restaurants in the tourist-filled parts of town, but I live in Tokyo and I haven't had any problems with rude staff (yet). Honestly, I still feel like I'm living in some kind of bubble, because the stuff I read on the news about happenings in the US and other western countries, even in daily life (like restaurant staff), and what I hear from my family in the US, is SO incongruent with my life in Tokyo. It's true that prices have gone up for many things, but other than that, life here is peaceful and good.

bombcar 3y ago
In general most of what you read anywhere is from either rabid fans or rabid complainers. Nobody else really bothers to even think about talking about whatever it is online. Always important to remember.
djtango 3y ago
Yeah crime has definitely worsened in London especially in my local area palpably in the time I've been in Singapore meanwhile over here things have gotten more expensive but we don't have violence on the streets. I didn't realise how much I value feeling safe until I left
emodendroket 3y ago
> Please take anything you see on the Japan-related subreddits with a container ship full of salt. The people who hang out on there are even worse than the Americans you'll see on NextDoor. Half of them seem to absolutely hate their life in Japan and are obviously bitter about their life choices, and most of the rest are just plain crazy. /r/japanlife is the absolute worst; I recommend staying far away from there. I think it's pretty easy to start out doing English teaching or whatever and before you know it you've been out of school 5 or 10 years and have basically the same level of earning power and marketable skills as any generic new grad, so it's easy to see how people would end up feeling trapped
spxneo 3y ago
yeah i always feel like these subreddits are off like its an echo chamber for jaded gaijins who can't handle seeing happy gaijins glad to hear so many ppl having a complete opposite time

brailsafe 3y ago

Seemed fine to me, didn't get racist vibes from anyone, most of the Japanese I meet here in Canada seem to be enjoying it, but cost of living is definitely a concern in both places

kcnenskcfn 3y ago

the rude workers are usually not japanese

vavooom 3y ago

Just traveled there and had zero bad experiences!! Kyoto maybe an exception for obvious reason given the swell of tourism they face these days and how un-polite the average tourist can be sadly.

pezezin 3y ago
Kyoto people also have a reputation for being a bit snobby and closed minded, even for Japanese standards, I would not take their complaints too seriously.

ryan_lane 3y ago

I live here and don't have this experience at all. I rarely get bad service, and effectively never get rude service. Maybe this is a difference in the places we're going. I avoid most tourist areas, and also tend to avoid restaurants that are for tourists. Even with that, I'd be surprised, because tourist places are that way because they cater to tourists, and why would you be rude to the people you're targeting? Are you maybe expecting that people feel this way and projecting these thoughts onto them? It's worth noting that tourism levels are still lower than pre-covid, so again, it would be a bit surprising that people would be at their boiling points.

kalleboo 3y ago

The majority of foreigners on English-language forums like Reddit are Americans stuck paying back their crazy student loans, and for that an Assistant to the Language Teacher income plus the cheapening yen is going to make their lives hell, I don't blame them for being bitter.

bboygravity 3y ago

Wait are you saying that you think inflation in Japan is due to foreigners? Hint: its not. Hint: Bank of Japan.