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I don't think they're playing dumb, I think they genuinely don't get the reasoning. I don't get the reasoning either. Good faith discussion and all that.

mort96 3y ago
The reasoning is literally as simple as: there's nothing wrong with being in the porn business, but that doesn't mean porn is appropriate in all contexts. If a woman does porn (or a man for that matter), that's fine. They didn't do anything wrong. If a company CEO decides to display porn in a company-wide meeting, there's probably something inappropriate and unprofessional about that. Where is the contradiction between these things???
- friend_and_foe 3y ago
  Well, for one, the image used in the field is not pornographic at all, it's a woman's face. Second, its been used for over 50 years. If this were really about showing porn in the office I think the old guard would've definitely put a stop to it. It's not about showing porn because the image is not porn. Finally, it is used primarily because it is technically fantastic for its use cases.
  - mort96 3y ago
    It's a playboy shoot. She's nude. It's not some hardcore thing, it's obviously not as inappropriate as the "CEO showing porn in a company meeting" example, but it 100% creates a "boy's club" type atmosphere. There's this website I use a lot, called rawpixels.net (seems to be down now?). It's an excellent tool for peeking at raw picture data when I work on debugging video decoding stuff at work. However, the default loaded picture is the Lena picture. It feels inappropriate every time I open the website at work, in our open office space where my screen is visible. Because it clearly looks like a picture that's intended to be erotic/suggestive. And if it feels inappropriate to put up on my large screen at work, it's clearly not appropriate as the standard test image for a whole field.
    - _3u10 3y ago
      She isn’t tho. It’s her face.
      - mort96 3y ago
        Witness, "her face": https://womenlovetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/distressed-lena-image-1-scaled.jpg https://womenlovetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/distres... That's the picture someone cropped, scanned, and used as the standard test image for all of computer imagery.
        friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Yeah... So what? The image used is of just her face. We are all naked under our clothes, is it inappropriate to be naked under our clothes at work? You said it yourself, it was cropped, so as to remove the inappropriate nudity. Problem solved. Your arguments are not very compelling.
        mort96 3y ago
        The image used is cropped porn. Think about the message that sends.

mort96 3y ago

The reasoning is literally as simple as: there's nothing wrong with being in the porn business, but that doesn't mean porn is appropriate in all contexts. If a woman does porn (or a man for that matter), that's fine. They didn't do anything wrong. If a company CEO decides to display porn in a company-wide meeting, there's probably something inappropriate and unprofessional about that. Where is the contradiction between these things???

friend_and_foe 3y ago
Well, for one, the image used in the field is not pornographic at all, it's a woman's face. Second, its been used for over 50 years. If this were really about showing porn in the office I think the old guard would've definitely put a stop to it. It's not about showing porn because the image is not porn. Finally, it is used primarily because it is technically fantastic for its use cases.
- mort96 3y ago
  It's a playboy shoot. She's nude. It's not some hardcore thing, it's obviously not as inappropriate as the "CEO showing porn in a company meeting" example, but it 100% creates a "boy's club" type atmosphere. There's this website I use a lot, called rawpixels.net (seems to be down now?). It's an excellent tool for peeking at raw picture data when I work on debugging video decoding stuff at work. However, the default loaded picture is the Lena picture. It feels inappropriate every time I open the website at work, in our open office space where my screen is visible. Because it clearly looks like a picture that's intended to be erotic/suggestive. And if it feels inappropriate to put up on my large screen at work, it's clearly not appropriate as the standard test image for a whole field.
  - _3u10 3y ago
    She isn’t tho. It’s her face.
    - mort96 3y ago
      Witness, "her face": https://womenlovetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/distressed-lena-image-1-scaled.jpg https://womenlovetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/distres... That's the picture someone cropped, scanned, and used as the standard test image for all of computer imagery.
      - friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Yeah... So what? The image used is of just her face. We are all naked under our clothes, is it inappropriate to be naked under our clothes at work? You said it yourself, it was cropped, so as to remove the inappropriate nudity. Problem solved. Your arguments are not very compelling.
        mort96 3y ago
        The image used is cropped porn. Think about the message that sends.