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this happens every few weeks. wait for the update, or contribute

by ruined 3y ago

lagrange77 3y ago
This is the first time i witnessed, that every single instance doesen't work. Did that happen before?
boarush 3y ago
Going through the linked issue, it seems that the fix has already been merged and should be part of the next invidious release. But it still is a fact that Google is trying to limit access to YouTube through alternatives like yt-dlp and invidious by constantly trying to break stuff.
- userbinator 3y ago
  by constantly trying to break stuff. It's long been known that Google's weapon is change; they've been doing that with web "standards" too. For YouTube, I guess the next stage in the cat-and-mouse game is to automate fixing it, and I even dare say that this new AI stuff might come in handy for that.
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    > by constantly trying to break stuff. > > Google's weapon The culture I find myself in, in 2024, is one of war; unrecognisable from anything I've seen in "peaceful civilian life" before. It has no resemblance to business, to markets, to value, to a lawful society of fairness, utility and cohesion. What happened to us?
    - nativeit 3y ago
      I don’t think anything happened to us, so much as your memory is flawed. We’ve never evolved beyond base self-interest, we’ve just become much more productive at extracting value from every aspect of life.
      - nonrandomstring 3y ago
        (Edited) I'm genuinely sorry for you that you feel your culture has become nothing but an extractive free-for-all. There remain people who still aspire to treating others as ends and not means. Extraction is not productivity. To produce is to create. Your comment kinda validates what I was hinting at more though; that BigTech now sees itself as in all-out "do what though wilt" conflict with the civil population. It's a cyber war in all but name - though we still pretend it's "business". At some point the population are going to figure the rules have changed. From that point I'd give FAANG a few months to a year. Most analysts have figured that a cyber war would be inter-national rather than intra/civil conflict. We'll need a backup plan for Google/Microsoft etc unless they're radically neutralised (by government breakup or similar)
- miki123211 3y ago
  My hypothesis is that Invidious is small, unimportant and unprofitable enough that Google just does nothing to care for it. It's not being tested, there's no QA, and the impact on Invidious isn't considered at all when planning API changes. If you're taking a walk in the forest, you don't care if you're crushing insects under your feet. You do nothing to deliberately crush them, but you don't walk extremely slowly all the time in case there's an insect nearby.

this happens every few weeks. wait for the update, or contribute

by ruined 3y ago

this happens every few weeks. wait for the update, or contribute

lagrange77 3y ago

This is the first time i witnessed, that every single instance doesen't work. Did that happen before?

boarush 3y ago

Going through the linked issue, it seems that the fix has already been merged and should be part of the next invidious release. But it still is a fact that Google is trying to limit access to YouTube through alternatives like yt-dlp and invidious by constantly trying to break stuff.

userbinator 3y ago
by constantly trying to break stuff. It's long been known that Google's weapon is change; they've been doing that with web "standards" too. For YouTube, I guess the next stage in the cat-and-mouse game is to automate fixing it, and I even dare say that this new AI stuff might come in handy for that.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  > by constantly trying to break stuff. > > Google's weapon The culture I find myself in, in 2024, is one of war; unrecognisable from anything I've seen in "peaceful civilian life" before. It has no resemblance to business, to markets, to value, to a lawful society of fairness, utility and cohesion. What happened to us?
  - nativeit 3y ago
    I don’t think anything happened to us, so much as your memory is flawed. We’ve never evolved beyond base self-interest, we’ve just become much more productive at extracting value from every aspect of life.
    - nonrandomstring 3y ago
      (Edited) I'm genuinely sorry for you that you feel your culture has become nothing but an extractive free-for-all. There remain people who still aspire to treating others as ends and not means. Extraction is not productivity. To produce is to create. Your comment kinda validates what I was hinting at more though; that BigTech now sees itself as in all-out "do what though wilt" conflict with the civil population. It's a cyber war in all but name - though we still pretend it's "business". At some point the population are going to figure the rules have changed. From that point I'd give FAANG a few months to a year. Most analysts have figured that a cyber war would be inter-national rather than intra/civil conflict. We'll need a backup plan for Google/Microsoft etc unless they're radically neutralised (by government breakup or similar)
miki123211 3y ago
My hypothesis is that Invidious is small, unimportant and unprofitable enough that Google just does nothing to care for it. It's not being tested, there's no QA, and the impact on Invidious isn't considered at all when planning API changes. If you're taking a walk in the forest, you don't care if you're crushing insects under your feet. You do nothing to deliberately crush them, but you don't walk extremely slowly all the time in case there's an insect nearby.