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Dan Lynch Has Died (SRI, Arpanet, Internet)
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- jandeboevrie 3y agoNot Dan Lynch of podcast fame. (Linux Outlaws, FLOSS weekly)
- k8sToGo 3y agoWhy are there many people dying the last few days? I am reading hacker news every day, but it feels like there’s at least a death note or two a day currently
- morphle 3y agoThe number of people dying will increase two score and ten years [2] after a baby boom [1] like the United States post-war baby boom. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boom [2] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2090%3A10&version=KJV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2090%3A10...
- endymi0n 3y agoalso: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion
- jimmygrapes 3y agoModern medical miracles aside, I doubt the die-off of baby boomers all within a short period is a clustering illusion.
- ShamelessC 3y agoHow is that bible verse relevant exactly?
- morphle 3y agoTo explain threescore years and ten. A better link would have been https://www.oed.com/dictionary/threescore_adj?tl=true#:~:text=with%20ellipsis%20of%20years%2C%20in%20reference%20to%20age%3B%20hence%20as,)%20and%20ten%2C%20seventy%20years https://www.oed.com/dictionary/threescore_adj?tl=true#:~:tex....
- somenameforme 3y agoI wasn't aware of it, but found it extremely interesting. A topic I find particularly interesting is the illusion of longevity many have in modern times. Look at the Ancient Greeks and most of them lived 70-100 years of age, with a median age beyond 70. [1] The typical argument is of a survivorship bias, but most/all of the Greeks we know of today would still have gone in history if they had died many decades prior. You can also look at other samples like the Founding Fathers of the US. Most lived past 70, and some even lived beyond 90. The only people who died before 60 were Alexander Hamilton, killed in a duel and John Hancock, died of gout - which can be caused by things including excessive drinking. There was indeed a very low life expectancy in the past, but it was 100% due to infant mortality. If one child dies in infancy, and the other lives to 80, then you have a life expectancy at birth of 40. That the Bible itself also noted this, is extremely interesting. Not even from a religious perspective, but from a historic one. It's really interesting to think about. As an adult today, you have a similar life expectancy to an (upper class) adult from thousands of years ago. There are many implications that one can apply to modern life. For instance it's safe to say that their dietary/lifestyle choices are very much worth considering, if not emulating. [1] - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18359748/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18359748/
- throwaway74432 3y agoIf you were in your 30s when the modern internet was born, then you're in your 70s now. The early pioneers and contributors are old now.
- brcmthrowaway 3y agoI can't imagine myself not being "with it" and having some knowledge about current technology.. Do you think any of the early modern Internet pioneers know about LLMs? (Besides John Nagle)? Or does the brain biologically give up on processing new information?
- AlbertCory 3y ago1. What makes you think any of the Internet pioneers are not "with it" as you put it? 2. What makes you think you know how you'll feel in 50 years? You cannot possibly predict that.
- convolvatron 3y agoI met and worked with alot of the early internet pioneers and they were some of the most clever and insightful people that I've ever met. I assure you that barring a serious medical condition they all maintain at least a basic awareness about the state of computing.
- dsr_ 3y agoLLMs are a frequent topic of conversation on at least one ex-employees-of-an-internet-pioneer mailing list, yes.
- brcmthrowaway 3y agoWhat is the mailing list?
- dsr_ 3y agoIf you worked for Bolt, Beranek and Newman, you're eligible.
- bertil 3y agoWinter and the baby boom?
- raziel2701 3y agoThe boomers are dying. Life expectancy is 76 years in the US. Which reminds me, that middle-age is actually 38. I'm halfway done with my life. Yikes!
- somenameforme 3y agoThe way I look at it is that I was, in hindsight, barely sentient for the first ~25 years, so that means we've only really gotten to live for 10-20 years!
- jessekv 3y agoI like this argument, I just wonder if the bar rises over time. Do you think that in 5 years you will say you were barely sentient for the first ~30 years?
- somenameforme 3y agoI've also wondered the exact same thing. Suppose we'll see!
- moomoo11 3y agoIt does make me sad sometimes. But I find great comfort knowing we were all along for the journey together. Whether we knew each other or not, I’m glad to have shared this space time with you and others. We are here because of those before us. Those after us will be there because of us. Good stuff.
- morphle 3y agoDan Lynch’s Love of ‘Brilliant Complexity’ Fuels Early Internet Development, Growth https://www.internethalloffame.org/2021/04/19/dan-lynchs-love-brilliant-complexity-fuels-early-internet-development-growth/ https://www.internethalloffame.org/2021/04/19/dan-lynchs-lov... A Brief History of the Internet https://arxiv.org/html/cs/9901011 https://arxiv.org/html/cs/9901011 Daniel C. Lynch interview https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102717120 https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/10271712... 2019 Internet Hall of Fame: Dan Lynch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowVk_kW8dQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowVk_kW8dQ The Past and Future History of the INTERNET https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/253671.253741 https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/253671.253741
- ChrisArchitect 3y agoThis is all over the place. Update link and title to the actual news or merge (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/31/technology/daniel-c-lynch-dead.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/31/technology/daniel-c-lynch...) Share IHOF link within
- neonate 3y agohttps://archive.ph/XDYgb https://archive.ph/XDYgb
- BaculumMeumEst 3y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAG7Y8WGDcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAG7Y8WGDcI
- ChrisArchitect 3y agoGift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/31/technology/daniel-c-lynch-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.g00.Y8I_.Ant4GhuPOcA_&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/31/technology/daniel-c-lynch...
- 1letterunixname 3y agoI'm reminded troublemakers are the ones who often change history and make huge piles of money but are seldom stable marriage prospects. On the other hand, those whose who are too timid make great marriage prospects but are seldom remembered. There's not much middle ground in the agreeableness trait, except to use disagreeableness with discretion.
- halfmatthalfcat 3y agoWhat? This isn’t remotely true. Do you have any data to back this up?
- gamache 3y agoLove seeing Vint Cerf reduced to a “Google executive”
- epicureanideal 3y agoIf anyone has the means, it may be worthwhile to invest in life extension research. We’re losing more great minds every year.
- vsnf 3y agoThis comment perplexes me. Do you think there is no research happening? In that view, what do you think disease research, anti-aging research, and medical/pharmacological research is? And do you suppose that there are a finite amount of great minds, that the current set of them dying off implies that we'll be left without any soon enough, or that the current set needs to be maintained forever? As important as his work was, do we need to keep him around forever as some sort of special class of person?
- commentenjoyer 3y agoIsn't it par for the course? This site is really the worst, worse than Tumblr, twitter, whatever. Because there's absolutely zero self awareness.
- throwaway5959 3y agoI think people should eventually die. I don’t think that’s a controversial viewpoint. I don’t want billionaires turning into trillionaires simply because they took their money, threw it into index funds, and waited a few hundred years.
- saijanai 3y agoJust about every project is looking at things from a material perspective. The "spiritual" perspective has legs with respect to life-extension, as well, though there are at least two distinct scientific definitions of spirituality, one based on mindfulness and one based on its exact opposite, mind-wandering resting. Both strategies (based on distinctly different meditation practices) have research suggesting that lifespan can be extended by their approach. e.g. For mindfulness: Molecules of Silence: Effects of Meditation on Gene Expression and Epigenetics https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01767/full https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.... vs For the "other white meat": Transcriptomics of Long-Term Meditation Practice: Evidence for Prevention or Reversal of Stress Effects Harmful to Health https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/3/218 https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/3/218 See also: On the Neurobiology of Meditation: Comparison of Three Organizing Strategies to Investigate Brain Patterns during Meditation Practice https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/56/12/712 https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/56/12/712 For how distinctly different types of meditation have different effects on nervous system and body. A hint: the words used to teach meditation can lead to radically different measurable physiological outcomes depending on the context in which those words are spoken and the persistence of those effects is also very dependent on the context in which instructions are given, often leading to exactly the opposite effect on certain physiological measures: Compare Reduced functional connectivity between cortical sources in five meditation traditions detected with lagged coherence using EEG tomography https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1053811912000596 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10538... with figure 3 of Enhanced EEG alpha time-domain phase synchrony during Transcendental Meditation: Implications for cortical integration theory https://www.brainresearchinstitute.org/research/totalbrain/TM&synch_SignalProc05_Hebert.pdf https://www.brainresearchinstitute.org/research/totalbrain/T... https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0165168405002100-gr2.jpg https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S01651684050021... You can't get more distinct than "reduced" vs 100% coherence across all leads simultaneously. And thereby hangs the tale for explaining how and why different mental practices have different long-term, persistent changes in brain activity in favor of longevity: reduced EEG coherence => reduced resting; 100% implies that the brain is only resting; the longer you practice some forms of meditation, the less restful the brain becomes. Always mindful vs always resting or moving back into resting mode asap given the chance.
- mikojan 3y agoI absolutely loved Wild at Heart! He will be missed.