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Well I agree if a delusion doesn't map to reality it would lead you astray. It seems some groups even encourage such delusions to persist for millenia in order

Well I agree if a delusion doesn't map to reality it would lead you astray. It seems some groups even encourage such delusions to persist for millenia in order to serve their purposes. But also, delusions can be an extreme form of analogy making which can be helpful to solve problems because they do map to reality in some weird way. I also agree that creativity and art is something our society needs people to do more of right now. Art is also a form of fantasy. I think a fundamental part of the problems we face is because our creativity has run dry. Just look at Hollywood's recent output. Sequels and remakes may make for a quick buck relative to investing in new ideas that may or may not work, but that approach is not sustainable. In the wider world we're even suffering through a remake of the cold war because we are too scared to move past the mindset behind it and into a new, better era. Even biblical stories are getting rehashed now by some to try and maintain the power they once had. They too are out of ideas on how to move past them. Tell me, have you ever watched the film "The Never Ending Story"? I think it's relevent to these kinds of topics.

wolverine876 3y ago
No, I haven't seen that film, but I'm going to look it up. I see the same trends you do. Look at the current crisis; I hardly see any art address it. I think that's part of the reason people say art is irrelevant - in a way it is. There's a great scene in the recent Todd Haynes fictional-bio of Bob Dylan, where someone says to young Dylan, who is playing traditional folk music: Why are singing about boxcars, etc. You've never been on one; those are ancient history. People who made those songs were singing about their world and their present experience; you need to make songs about yours. It's a failure of everyone, but IMHO of artists in particular, to accept the narrative of despair (which I think is an intentional campaign(s) of propaganda). I think it's no more complicated than that people just need to wake up. The propaganda campaigns - and despair and paralyzation is the goal propaganda - keep undermining them, I suspect. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

wolverine876 3y ago

No, I haven't seen that film, but I'm going to look it up. I see the same trends you do. Look at the current crisis; I hardly see any art address it. I think that's part of the reason people say art is irrelevant - in a way it is. There's a great scene in the recent Todd Haynes fictional-bio of Bob Dylan, where someone says to young Dylan, who is playing traditional folk music: Why are singing about boxcars, etc. You've never been on one; those are ancient history. People who made those songs were singing about their world and their present experience; you need to make songs about yours. It's a failure of everyone, but IMHO of artists in particular, to accept the narrative of despair (which I think is an intentional campaign(s) of propaganda). I think it's no more complicated than that people just need to wake up. The propaganda campaigns - and despair and paralyzation is the goal propaganda - keep undermining them, I suspect. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.