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At the end, the author quotes someone saying that if it was a known Star Wars location they could preserve it. So if you’re a lumber company, you should price a

At the end, the author quotes someone saying that if it was a known Star Wars location they could preserve it. So if you’re a lumber company, you should price a movie shoot the same as you would the entire value of that land over time since if you let someone do something on it, they will aggressively try to remove your property rights from it. So be very careful with these things. It’s very similar to the NYC squatters rights thing. If you let someone have a little they’ll take everything. So sometimes you just have to either prevent them or you have to act fast (here by cutting right after to remove the value of your land from them).

ant6n 3y ago
The argument is that the company could have preserved their forest because it would’ve been more profitable to keep it. That old growth or near old growth forest of red woods shouldn’t be harvested at all is a separate issue, has little to do with Star Wars, except that Star Wars vi was shot in such a forest.
smcin 3y ago
> they will aggressively try to remove your property rights from it.... similar to the NYC squatters rights thing. I think that's bad-faith reading of the quote from one arborist, not the CA Governor or Treasurer or Dept Director of Parks and Recreation. The way I read the article is that it was implied the state should have considered buying out the owner of the forest (or at least part of it) with state money and convert it to a park. I don't know whether that would have been economically viable and I don't understand people discussing here how forestry policy on redwoods changed after that, but it would be good to see numbers on all this, even if the answer was no. FYI Lucasfilm shot the Endor scenes in Del Norte in Apr-May 1982, a year before release of RotJ. So, another huge errorbar would be estimating the film's popularity (if there's a deadline on the property being destroyed, as in this case). 99.999% of movies aren't memorable or profitable like the Star Wars trilogy, so they add no value. Also, this stuff isn't predictable at shooting time before the film's release. Compare e.g. 'The Matrix Reloaded' (2003) car-chase scenes were filmed in Oakland, but aren't that popular. But also the Boston Public Garden Bench from "Good Will Hunting", a low-budget $10m film by two young guys people had never heard of [0], or the prison location from 'The Shawshank Redemption' (the closed Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, OH). [0]: https://www.livethemovies.com/home/the-boston-public-garden-bench-from-good-will-hunting https://www.livethemovies.com/home/the-boston-public-garden-...

ant6n 3y ago

The argument is that the company could have preserved their forest because it would’ve been more profitable to keep it. That old growth or near old growth forest of red woods shouldn’t be harvested at all is a separate issue, has little to do with Star Wars, except that Star Wars vi was shot in such a forest.

smcin 3y ago

> they will aggressively try to remove your property rights from it.... similar to the NYC squatters rights thing. I think that's bad-faith reading of the quote from one arborist, not the CA Governor or Treasurer or Dept Director of Parks and Recreation. The way I read the article is that it was implied the state should have considered buying out the owner of the forest (or at least part of it) with state money and convert it to a park. I don't know whether that would have been economically viable and I don't understand people discussing here how forestry policy on redwoods changed after that, but it would be good to see numbers on all this, even if the answer was no. FYI Lucasfilm shot the Endor scenes in Del Norte in Apr-May 1982, a year before release of RotJ. So, another huge errorbar would be estimating the film's popularity (if there's a deadline on the property being destroyed, as in this case). 99.999% of movies aren't memorable or profitable like the Star Wars trilogy, so they add no value. Also, this stuff isn't predictable at shooting time before the film's release. Compare e.g. 'The Matrix Reloaded' (2003) car-chase scenes were filmed in Oakland, but aren't that popular. But also the Boston Public Garden Bench from "Good Will Hunting", a low-budget $10m film by two young guys people had never heard of [0], or the prison location from 'The Shawshank Redemption' (the closed Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, OH). [0]: https://www.livethemovies.com/home/the-boston-public-garden-bench-from-good-will-hunting https://www.livethemovies.com/home/the-boston-public-garden-...