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awkward, but heard very recently that open source is not "vc backable, go away". maybe it will change now, after the infrastructure pillars of the modern world

awkward, but heard very recently that open source is not "vc backable, go away". maybe it will change now, after the infrastructure pillars of the modern world ruins in front of those many saas/ai/web3/cloud/whatever investors

creshal 3y ago
Why should VCs back oss infrastructure directly? It doesn't help the VCs and only creates perverse incentives for the oss projects. The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. They actually know what those are and don't have to force their own monetization/growth models onto the projects.
- 331c8c71 3y ago
  > The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. There is a bit of a free rider problem it seems.
  - FridgeSeal 3y ago
    Noooooooo you can’t ask them to pay! You’re supposed to do this for the good of the community only! They ought to be able to take whatever you do and resell at their leisure, after all you made it open source!
    - cherryteastain 3y ago
      And don't forget that GPL is bad, only BSD and MIT are the real free licenses because they let us take the code and sell it on without forcing us to contribute back.
- fredamaral 3y ago
  definitely. not talking about the vc specifically, but the investment chain. a typical free rider, directly or indirectly.
- supriyo-biswas 3y ago
  > The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. If anything, the same "valuable" "community" members, a lot of which includes such SaaS businesses and other freeloaders, seems to shout at projects trying to ensure their survival through formal ownership structures and license changes.
- noobermin 3y ago
  Sure, may be VCs specifically shouldn't be where the money comes from but this labour NEEDS to be paid otherwise shit like this will keep happening. Dear god, I looked it up just now, but next week will be the 10th anniversary of Heartbleed being introduced to the world. A decade, and really little has changed.

creshal 3y ago

Why should VCs back oss infrastructure directly? It doesn't help the VCs and only creates perverse incentives for the oss projects. The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. They actually know what those are and don't have to force their own monetization/growth models onto the projects.

331c8c71 3y ago
> The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. There is a bit of a free rider problem it seems.
- FridgeSeal 3y ago
  Noooooooo you can’t ask them to pay! You’re supposed to do this for the good of the community only! They ought to be able to take whatever you do and resell at their leisure, after all you made it open source!
  - cherryteastain 3y ago
    And don't forget that GPL is bad, only BSD and MIT are the real free licenses because they let us take the code and sell it on without forcing us to contribute back.
fredamaral 3y ago
definitely. not talking about the vc specifically, but the investment chain. a typical free rider, directly or indirectly.
supriyo-biswas 3y ago
> The SaaS/cloud/etc. companies themselves should fund the projects they depend on. If anything, the same "valuable" "community" members, a lot of which includes such SaaS businesses and other freeloaders, seems to shout at projects trying to ensure their survival through formal ownership structures and license changes.
noobermin 3y ago
Sure, may be VCs specifically shouldn't be where the money comes from but this labour NEEDS to be paid otherwise shit like this will keep happening. Dear god, I looked it up just now, but next week will be the 10th anniversary of Heartbleed being introduced to the world. A decade, and really little has changed.