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Tesla engineers don't have engineering degrees or even common sense apparently
- renewiltord 3y agoIs this a “sensor present, software error” or a “sensor absent, this needs a hw retrofit” issue? It seems like a pretty big bug.
- LorenPechtel 3y agoFrom the comments on that Xit it appears that the sensor doesn't go all the way up to the top.
- consumer451 3y agoFrom what I've seen in YouTube reviews, it's the sensor. The other, though likely more expensive place where pennies were pinched, is the lack of video on the rear-view mirror. Instead the rear-view camera is shown on the main display when shifted into reverse. The physical mirror itself is blocked by the tonneau cover. Personally, I enjoy the situational awareness of always being able to use the rear-view mirror, even when moving forward. Both of these things feel inappropriate in a $100,000 vehicle in 2024.
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- hilux 3y agoI lost (fortunately, only) the tip of my finger to a car door.
- lebean 3y agoI winced at this. I once got my finger caught in a zipper.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoCould have been much worse...
- hilux 3y agoWow ... literally until this instant I had never considered the possibility that it could have been my entire finger, or damage to my hand. (I was three years old. This was a long time ago.)
- forgetfreeman 3y agoWe might be thinking of different zippers.
- hilux 3y agoMy manual encounter was with the door of a VW Beetle, not a zipper.
- verisimi 3y ago"finger", "trouser zipper"... many of us have been there..
- RedShift1 3y agoIt even cuts up to four carrots. Crazy. Shown here: https://youtu.be/xNE-NyaYBcg?si=j2nZpMCsmos_b2vB&t=1742 https://youtu.be/xNE-NyaYBcg?si=j2nZpMCsmos_b2vB&t=1742
- bugbuddy 3y agoI mean them heavy hatches need them big powerful motors. Them heavy motors ain’t stopping easily.
- kukkamario 3y agoWell heavy motors actually do stop easily, but issue is just that detecting when to stop becomes harder. It is something that can be solved by measuring more precisely or adding extra sensors, but somewhere costs were cut and some part of the stack wasn't implemented. Worst case it is hardware side and cannot be fixed by firmware update
- RedShift1 3y agoOther brands don't seem to have this problem even though they also have heavy hatches? And in the video with the 4 carrots, you can clearly see the hatch stopping, yet it keeps powering the motors and eventually cut the carrots. Even a simple current limit cutoff would have prevented this, so either the limit is set way too high or there's no limit at all.
- rsynnott 3y agoOh, so it’s a _kitchen appliance_. Makes more sense than it being a car, I suppose.
- bugbuddy 3y agoIn our Cyberpunk future, finger safety is optional. All limbs and body parts are optional replaceable addons and accessories for our Neuralink(TM) implants. /s
- adrianmonk 3y agoOr Tesla engineers do have engineering degrees, but Tesla management pared down the list of requirements. I'm not a close follower of Elon Musk, but apparently he believes in aggressively trimming requirements. According to this, at least: https://mondaynote.com/what-makes-elon-musk-move-so-fast-8e7c91820923 https://mondaynote.com/what-makes-elon-musk-move-so-fast-8e7...
- consumer451 3y agoAnother example at Tesla was removing the ultrasonic sensors, which many argued was for margins.[0] This led to existing features like Park Assist, Smart Summon, etc no longer working on new Teslas.[1] [0] According to Tesla, there were 12 USS sensors on each vehicle. Costs for each sensor appear to be around $50, when purchased on the after-market. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/tesla-removed-its-ultrasonic-sensors-from-its-cars-what-does-that-mean-for-your-tesla-vehicle-your-safety-and-teslas-future/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/tesla-removed-its-ultrasonic-s...
- publius_0xf3 3y agoThere's no risk of pinching—the panel gaps will spare your fingers.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoI laughed way harder than I should have at this. Touted as the absolute cutting edge of automotive design by fans and yet even the Soviets did a better job with basic fitment.
- anotherhue 3y ago> cutting edge of automotive design Uh-huh.
- pclmulqdq 3y agoSomeone replied to this video by sticking his hand in his cybertruck trunk with the same result (his hand got caught). Luckily, it looked like he could bend the body panels enough for his fingers to fit in the ungodly large gaps without getting cut off. I think this was a fanboy's attempt to say exactly what you said, but without the sarcasm.
- exe34 3y agoMove fast and break things. Move fast and blow up rockets. Move fast and chop off bits.
- qwerpy 3y agoIs this the usual Tesla derangement syndrome or is cybertruck uniquely dangerous in this way? I wouldn’t want to put my fingers inside of any trunk/hood and close it.
- bugbuddy 3y agoThe only derangement here is not recognizing the tragicomedy of this entire vehicle’s existence. Now we are seeing the super fans touting plastic wrapping it to prevent rusting. ROFL
- Ekaros 3y agoIt is like Musk got the idea and it had to be made... One way or an other... I'm not sure how long will they keep making it...
- schiffern 3y agoIn the linked ~30 second video clip they do indeed test multiple vehicles, starting about 5 seconds in.
- SR2Z 3y agolol basically every other car manages to not chop carrots this way noticing the sheer number of incredibly stupid Tesla problems (where are the turn signals? wtf happens to people who buy FSD and then sell their car years later, never having received it? why is the car programmed to lie about its remaining range and CS given a script to make sure anyone who notices gets the runaround?) is not "derangement syndrome."
- bdjsiqoocwk 3y agoSafe cars don't appeal to all the alpha males that the cyber truck is marketed to.
- 1letterunixname 3y agoIt only appeals to rich alpha hipsters because alphas drive diesel trucks with massive aftermarket vertical stacks because they scoff at EVs as some sort of feminine or substandard "imposter."
- Tade0 3y agoI get the feeling that non-premium brands (especially Kia) implemented this better. There's no crunching noise present (like with the Mercedes) or bits falling off (BMW). Tesla is in its own league in terms of safety hazard here of course.
- hackerlight 3y agoHe did say FSD would be crushingly good
- CamperBob2 3y agoThis has nothing to do with degrees or the lack thereof. If you needed a formal engineering education to know not to design a mechanism like this one for a consumer application, then engineering was never the right career choice for you... and no school was ever going to turn you into a good one. Failure to say 'no' to Elon Musk is an ethics shortcoming, not a matter of engineering. In accounting, you'd play fast and loose with the books and run afoul of the IRS. In medicine, you'd harm your own patients with careless prescribing practices. In law, you'd take orders from someone like Trump and lose your license. And so on. If you did this, you suck, and somewhere a Wal-Mart is missing a cashier.
- sidcool 3y agoThis is certainly a hazard. But is it such a big one that it overshadows every other cool aspect of the car? I am a Tesla fan, and hence may be biased. Tesla cars certifiably are one of the safest out there. This should have an OTA fix.
- JustResign 3y agoThis is sarcasm, right?
- sidcool 3y agoWhich part?
- xracy 3y agoI can appreciate being a fan, but we need to move fandom into the realm of "While I like this, I don't need to defend every single thing that goes wrong with a brand I'm a fan of." I bought a Tesla a few years ago. I get it, they're cool electric cars. Would I ever buy one again? No. We don't need to defend every safety issue that Tesla creates. This is better than running FSD into children. But it's still a major safety issue. Tesla should apologize fix it, and then we can move on. We don't need to defend it. We also don't need to linger on it. It's not the most problematic thing Tesla is doing (please see FSD running into children). Also, the car has more issues than this. This is just one of a bunch. (please see the 'rusting' comments in this article's threads.
- sidcool 3y agoYou are absolutely right! I haven't ever defended FSD or this finger cutting issue. But I do think media is overly critical of Tesla compared to legacy auto.
- rsynnott 3y agoThis car feels like the car equivalent of the Tu-144 (the Soviet Concorde clone which, on an early flight, blared a warning siren in the cabin for the _entire flight_ because no-one could figure out how to turn it off) just _comically_ unready for launch but launched anyway to stroke egos.