This is exactly the attitude that makes me never want to use Wayland: I like being able to run Icewm, Stumpwm, WindowMaker and all sorts of other X window manag

This is exactly the attitude that makes me never want to use Wayland: I like being able to run Icewm, Stumpwm, WindowMaker and all sorts of other X window managers that haven’t been updated in years. The Wayland attitude of “we’re just dumping all your favorite stuff in the garbage because we’re the adults in the room” is the antithesis of all the things I liked about Linux (not to mention going from a system shaded by *BSDs and Illumos to a Linux-proprietary system)