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Last year, an unknown person took nominal control over OpenAI's startup fund

77 points by neom 3y ago

watersb 3y ago
It saves on healthcare costs.
shreezus 3y ago
Perhaps it’s not a “human” running the fund but rather one of the autonomous agents OAI is currently testing internally…
SuperHeavy256 3y ago
The page refuses to load... hmm.
publius_0xf3 3y ago
Someone--or something?
justanotheratom 3y ago
Altman Sam
- readyplayernull 3y ago
  Alt-man, that's a clue.
  - anotherhue 3y ago
    Command-man on a mac. It's all connected!
- Attummm 3y ago
  The entire situation seems strangely surreal. With a name like Altman Sam, it's definitely evoking strong Hideo Kojima vibes.
  - insin 3y ago
    Fission Mailed
- blarg1 3y ago
  mas namtla
randycupertino 3y ago
Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240329221340/https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-running-openais-startup-fund-2024-3 https://web.archive.org/web/20240329221340/https://www.busin...
GolfPopper 3y ago
Bernie Madoff's ghost is currently wishing he'd thought of this 20 years ago.
8organicbits 3y ago
Would a filing like this grant any actual control of the fund?
knighthack 3y ago
Could this "fake person" be... an AI? Hmm.
atleastoptimal 3y ago
Is all the mystery and intrigue surrounding OpenAI deliberate or just the natural consequence of a single firm holding keys to the greatest technology the world has ever seen? Crazy how casual and incidental so much of their PR seems.
- anonylizard 3y ago
  They consistently undersell their product. ChatGPT was released silently, with no marketing more than a tweet. GPT-4 was just a blogpost, despite how much of a scientific leap it presented for mankind. Compare this with Google, which on the release of their inferior chatgpt, proclaims the "GEMINI ERA". Which is the typical marketing approach of exaggeration. Since OpenAI undersells, even a random tweet will be interpreted as the coming of AGI. Since Google oversells, even their impressive achivement (Gemini 1.5) gets no hype and is quickly forgotten.
  - logicchains 3y ago
    >Since Google oversells, even their impressive achivement (Gemini 1.5) It's not that impressive given Claude 3 Opus seems to beat it by almost every metric in spite of having way less funding and a smaller team behind it.
- anon7725 3y ago
  > the greatest technology the world has ever seen? Give me a fucking break. Seriously, people.
  - atleastoptimal 3y ago
    cope
- eru 3y ago
  > [...] a single firm holding keys [...] You know that OpenAI are far from the only company training large neural networks? Eg Google and Facebook and Amazon, and countless others, are also hard at work on the matter. If you want to point a finger at a single company pulling lots of strings, pick Nvidia perhaps? They also have competitors, of course, but Nvidia is far more central than OpenAI.
duskwuff 3y ago
The Github profile linked in the article is pretty bizarre: https://github.com/Jrbiltmore https://github.com/Jrbiltmore I took a look at some of their repos, like "QuantumOS", and the code is nonsense! Each file has some simple code (sometimes in the wrong language) vaguely related to the filename, but none of it seems like a part of a larger whole, or substantial enough to do anything. It's as if they came up with a list of filenames, then asked ChatGPT or a similar language model to write each one.
- thepablohansen 3y ago
  Bizarre- the repos I looked at all had obvious signs of being GPT-generated. Some examples 1) https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/Quantum-Transformers/blob/root/src/theoretical_simulations.py https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/Quantum-Transformers/blob/root... - notice the ChatGPT-reminiscent "Example usage" and "Placeholder for _ implementation" which is common across the repos 2) https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/QuantumOS/blob/root/ai-framework/libraries/tensorflow_wrapper.py https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/QuantumOS/blob/root/ai-framewo... - "Example ___" and "Assume the model has _"
- __MatrixMan__ 3y ago
  The number of changes that this guy can pack into a half hour is pretty impressive https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/shock-turbulence-simulation/graphs/code-frequency https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/shock-turbulence-simulation/gr...
- wisty 3y ago
  Can an AI sot on its own board of directors?
  - tempodox 3y ago
    I'm sure an “AI” can sot wherever it chooses to.
- quantiq 3y ago
  >The Orchard is a two story affordable housing complex in Santa Ana, California. It serves the area's chronically homeless residents I think the reason for all of this is actually fairly boring. Someone with a history of mental illness and/or schizophrenia filing fraudulent documents and writing nonsense chatGPT code assuming it is some kind of AGI-singularity-oracle. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone with a history of mental illness assume these systems are more capable than what they actually are in reality.
dcreater 3y ago
This is very unnerving
sturza 3y ago
In this repo: https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/UniversalBankAndTrust https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/UniversalBankAndTrust looks like he's talking to chatgpt to generate the code. It appears someone let an AI run on the internet.
tempodox 3y ago
If their “AI”s are so great, why don’t they control the company? And, while we’re at it, make stock investments?

77 points by neom 3y ago

It saves on healthcare costs.

Perhaps it’s not a “human” running the fund but rather one of the autonomous agents OAI is currently testing internally…

SuperHeavy256 3y ago

The page refuses to load... hmm.

publius_0xf3 3y ago

Someone--or something?

justanotheratom 3y ago

Altman Sam

readyplayernull 3y ago
Alt-man, that's a clue.
- anotherhue 3y ago
  Command-man on a mac. It's all connected!
Attummm 3y ago
The entire situation seems strangely surreal. With a name like Altman Sam, it's definitely evoking strong Hideo Kojima vibes.
- insin 3y ago
  Fission Mailed
blarg1 3y ago
mas namtla

randycupertino 3y ago

Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240329221340/https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-running-openais-startup-fund-2024-3 https://web.archive.org/web/20240329221340/https://www.busin...

GolfPopper 3y ago

Bernie Madoff's ghost is currently wishing he'd thought of this 20 years ago.

8organicbits 3y ago

Would a filing like this grant any actual control of the fund?

knighthack 3y ago

Could this "fake person" be... an AI? Hmm.

atleastoptimal 3y ago

Is all the mystery and intrigue surrounding OpenAI deliberate or just the natural consequence of a single firm holding keys to the greatest technology the world has ever seen? Crazy how casual and incidental so much of their PR seems.

anonylizard 3y ago
They consistently undersell their product. ChatGPT was released silently, with no marketing more than a tweet. GPT-4 was just a blogpost, despite how much of a scientific leap it presented for mankind. Compare this with Google, which on the release of their inferior chatgpt, proclaims the "GEMINI ERA". Which is the typical marketing approach of exaggeration. Since OpenAI undersells, even a random tweet will be interpreted as the coming of AGI. Since Google oversells, even their impressive achivement (Gemini 1.5) gets no hype and is quickly forgotten.
- logicchains 3y ago
  >Since Google oversells, even their impressive achivement (Gemini 1.5) It's not that impressive given Claude 3 Opus seems to beat it by almost every metric in spite of having way less funding and a smaller team behind it.
anon7725 3y ago
> the greatest technology the world has ever seen? Give me a fucking break. Seriously, people.
- atleastoptimal 3y ago
  cope
eru 3y ago
> [...] a single firm holding keys [...] You know that OpenAI are far from the only company training large neural networks? Eg Google and Facebook and Amazon, and countless others, are also hard at work on the matter. If you want to point a finger at a single company pulling lots of strings, pick Nvidia perhaps? They also have competitors, of course, but Nvidia is far more central than OpenAI.

duskwuff 3y ago

The Github profile linked in the article is pretty bizarre: https://github.com/Jrbiltmore https://github.com/Jrbiltmore I took a look at some of their repos, like "QuantumOS", and the code is nonsense! Each file has some simple code (sometimes in the wrong language) vaguely related to the filename, but none of it seems like a part of a larger whole, or substantial enough to do anything. It's as if they came up with a list of filenames, then asked ChatGPT or a similar language model to write each one.

thepablohansen 3y ago
Bizarre- the repos I looked at all had obvious signs of being GPT-generated. Some examples 1) https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/Quantum-Transformers/blob/root/src/theoretical_simulations.py https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/Quantum-Transformers/blob/root... - notice the ChatGPT-reminiscent "Example usage" and "Placeholder for _ implementation" which is common across the repos 2) https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/QuantumOS/blob/root/ai-framework/libraries/tensorflow_wrapper.py https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/QuantumOS/blob/root/ai-framewo... - "Example ___" and "Assume the model has _"
__MatrixMan__ 3y ago
The number of changes that this guy can pack into a half hour is pretty impressive https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/shock-turbulence-simulation/graphs/code-frequency https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/shock-turbulence-simulation/gr...
wisty 3y ago
Can an AI sot on its own board of directors?
- tempodox 3y ago
  I'm sure an “AI” can sot wherever it chooses to.
quantiq 3y ago
>The Orchard is a two story affordable housing complex in Santa Ana, California. It serves the area's chronically homeless residents I think the reason for all of this is actually fairly boring. Someone with a history of mental illness and/or schizophrenia filing fraudulent documents and writing nonsense chatGPT code assuming it is some kind of AGI-singularity-oracle. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone with a history of mental illness assume these systems are more capable than what they actually are in reality.

dcreater 3y ago

This is very unnerving

sturza 3y ago

In this repo: https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/UniversalBankAndTrust https://github.com/Jrbiltmore/UniversalBankAndTrust looks like he's talking to chatgpt to generate the code. It appears someone let an AI run on the internet.

tempodox 3y ago

If their “AI”s are so great, why don’t they control the company? And, while we’re at it, make stock investments?