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That's absolutely fine and your choice, and great that you don't feel that you need it, but just for anyone who could benefit from medication and is seeing your

That's absolutely fine and your choice, and great that you don't feel that you need it, but just for anyone who could benefit from medication and is seeing your comment, it doesn't make you any less "you". Just like wearing glasses won't fundamentally change you but can be pretty helpful if you need them.

nickburns 3y ago
that's truly a terrible metaphor. an ADD/ADHD diagnosis is not physiological. and neither myopia nor hyperopia are psychological.
- MagicMoonlight 3y ago
  It’s caused by the structure of the brain.
  - nickburns 3y ago
    cite?
    - kerkeslager 3y ago
      This is well known enough to be arguably common knowledge, but if you must: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/adhd-brain-vs-normal-brain https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/adhd-brain-vs-norm...
      - nickburns 3y ago
        i'm not particularly convinced by anything there, and certainly not by a mere bulleted "brain structure" nor the section which expounds on it. if i'm being completely honest, i'm not entirely sure what's even meant by the suggestion that ADD/ADHD is 'caused by the structure of the brain.' sentience is 'caused' by the 'structure of the brain.' and?
        kerkeslager 3y ago
        > i'm not particularly convinced by anything there That's fine; I'm not trying to change your mind because you've clearly already decided you know enough facts and aren't going to listen to any new ones. I respond in discussions like this to educate undecided readers. > if i'm being completely honest, i'm not entirely sure what's even meant by the suggestion that ADD/ADHD is 'caused by the structure of the brain.' > sentience is 'caused' by the 'structure of the brain.' and? It's a direct refutation of your wrong claim "an ADD/ADHD diagnosis is not physiological", which you said a few posts back. You know what the word "physiological" means, right? You said it, so it seems like you thought it was important enough to say, but now that it looks wrong you want to say it's not important?
        nickburns 3y ago
        get a grip. i'm obviously not going to engage with that. it was obvious that i shouldn't have even engaged you in the first place. "but if you must": https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        kerkeslager 3y ago
        If you decide to stop arguing for misinformation that's entirely fine with me. The guidelines don't state that we're supposed to not disagree with misinformation, and if they did, I wouldn't comply.
- viciousvoxel 3y ago
  Not my metaphor -- it's one used by many doctors, neurologists, psychiatrists, and psychologists. ADHD does in fact have a physiological basis. It's a neurological disorder, specifically a neurodevelopmental and neurobehavioral disorder.
  - nickburns 3y ago
    i never denied many people use it. maybe obviously i've heard it many times before myself. i simply offered that i believe it to be terrible. and the rest of what you state is still very much up for medical, scientific, and philosophical debate.
    - viciousvoxel 3y ago
      Weak. If you believe it's up for debate then please refrain from responding with your own opinion like it's scientific fact.

nickburns 3y ago

that's truly a terrible metaphor. an ADD/ADHD diagnosis is not physiological. and neither myopia nor hyperopia are psychological.

MagicMoonlight 3y ago
It’s caused by the structure of the brain.
- nickburns 3y ago
  cite?
  - kerkeslager 3y ago
    This is well known enough to be arguably common knowledge, but if you must: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/adhd-brain-vs-normal-brain https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/adhd-brain-vs-norm...
    - nickburns 3y ago
      i'm not particularly convinced by anything there, and certainly not by a mere bulleted "brain structure" nor the section which expounds on it. if i'm being completely honest, i'm not entirely sure what's even meant by the suggestion that ADD/ADHD is 'caused by the structure of the brain.' sentience is 'caused' by the 'structure of the brain.' and?
      - kerkeslager 3y ago
        > i'm not particularly convinced by anything there That's fine; I'm not trying to change your mind because you've clearly already decided you know enough facts and aren't going to listen to any new ones. I respond in discussions like this to educate undecided readers. > if i'm being completely honest, i'm not entirely sure what's even meant by the suggestion that ADD/ADHD is 'caused by the structure of the brain.' > sentience is 'caused' by the 'structure of the brain.' and? It's a direct refutation of your wrong claim "an ADD/ADHD diagnosis is not physiological", which you said a few posts back. You know what the word "physiological" means, right? You said it, so it seems like you thought it was important enough to say, but now that it looks wrong you want to say it's not important?
        nickburns 3y ago
        get a grip. i'm obviously not going to engage with that. it was obvious that i shouldn't have even engaged you in the first place. "but if you must": https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        kerkeslager 3y ago
        If you decide to stop arguing for misinformation that's entirely fine with me. The guidelines don't state that we're supposed to not disagree with misinformation, and if they did, I wouldn't comply.
viciousvoxel 3y ago
Not my metaphor -- it's one used by many doctors, neurologists, psychiatrists, and psychologists. ADHD does in fact have a physiological basis. It's a neurological disorder, specifically a neurodevelopmental and neurobehavioral disorder.
- nickburns 3y ago
  i never denied many people use it. maybe obviously i've heard it many times before myself. i simply offered that i believe it to be terrible. and the rest of what you state is still very much up for medical, scientific, and philosophical debate.
  - viciousvoxel 3y ago
    Weak. If you believe it's up for debate then please refrain from responding with your own opinion like it's scientific fact.