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I fully agree with your last paragraph, but not sure what it has to do with cloud infrastructure specifically. AWS also leverages huge economies of scale into p

I fully agree with your last paragraph, but not sure what it has to do with cloud infrastructure specifically. AWS also leverages huge economies of scale into profit, it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server in a colo somewhere. You certainly won't realize equivalent availability, scalability, security, support ecosystem, etc with it either. Cloud infra can make a lot of sense even with "pets" - you just gotta make sure to understand requirements, limitations, and use the right tools for the problem. For me personally, I'll reach for cloud infra these days as a reasonable default (similar to reaching for Postgres as a reasonable database default), especially if it's managed and affordable.

Nextgrid 3y ago
> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server in a colo somewhere There are a lot of projects where the bandwidth charges alone would make self-managed on-prem come out ahead, and I'm not even talking the instant 2-3x performance boost you get by moving to real hardware instead of overprovisioned cloud VM hosts.
zer00eyz 3y ago
>> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server in a colo somewhere At this scale ovh, hetzner are the solutions. If your that small fixed fee pricing is a HUGE win.
bcaxis 3y ago
> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server I get even better than their margins. In the neighborhood of 100x cheaper. It's not rocket science. > equivalent availability AWS availability isn't all that super great. Most of their services are rated for only 99.95 before they offer pittance credits. That's not difficult to meet with a single computer... > scalability A service only needs good enough scalability. Auto scaling is also a bug, not just a feature. Remember that it is also tied to auto billing. I can't afford to have my wallet DDOSed. > security Security is always a problem that needs to be solved. You don't get an auto pass on security needs because you signed up for AWS. > support You have to pay for that.... You can get it from other vendors too if you have budget for it. > ecosystem This is flat out wrong. Compare AWS offerings to the breadth and depth of open source offerings and the latter comes out far ahead.

Nextgrid 3y ago

> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server in a colo somewhere There are a lot of projects where the bandwidth charges alone would make self-managed on-prem come out ahead, and I'm not even talking the instant 2-3x performance boost you get by moving to real hardware instead of overprovisioned cloud VM hosts.

zer00eyz 3y ago

>> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server in a colo somewhere At this scale ovh, hetzner are the solutions. If your that small fixed fee pricing is a HUGE win.

bcaxis 3y ago

> it's not like you're going to realize equivalent margins by running your own little server I get even better than their margins. In the neighborhood of 100x cheaper. It's not rocket science. > equivalent availability AWS availability isn't all that super great. Most of their services are rated for only 99.95 before they offer pittance credits. That's not difficult to meet with a single computer... > scalability A service only needs good enough scalability. Auto scaling is also a bug, not just a feature. Remember that it is also tied to auto billing. I can't afford to have my wallet DDOSed. > security Security is always a problem that needs to be solved. You don't get an auto pass on security needs because you signed up for AWS. > support You have to pay for that.... You can get it from other vendors too if you have budget for it. > ecosystem This is flat out wrong. Compare AWS offerings to the breadth and depth of open source offerings and the latter comes out far ahead.