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If anyone has actually used Gemini and seen how good it is, Demis has probably already saved Google.

fumar 3y ago
I’ve slowly started to switch over to Gemini Advanced the paid tier from ChatGPT4. Longer conversations seem possible with Gemini and it has more recent information - at least for the topics I care about.
loudmax 3y ago
Google's problem isn't lack of engineering talent, it's the absence of competent management. Gemini could be far ahead of GPT-4 or whatever OpenAI comes out with next. It won't matter unless they actually build a profitable business around running an AI. This should be feasible, but so far there's no indication of this happening. The infrastructure is there. The institutional knowledge and engineering talent is there. Google can do this if they return to their core mission statement: "To organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." This is in contrast to their current objective, which from the outside seems to be "To maximize next quarter's ad revenue." I would love to see a return of the old Google. No amount of engineering skill will make up for clueless management.
browningstreet 3y ago
I've spent this week re-writing a significant document, section by section, with Gemini Advanced. It had opinions (some were offered straight, and some with caveats given other statements in my document), and readily highlighted gaps in the passages. I was impressed. I'm still doing a good portion of the human-does-writing bits, but things I'd wanted to include, but have forgotten along the way -- or which are buried in notes I didn't give to Gemini, were brought to my attention again.
- pphysch 3y ago
  What sort of prompts do you use for this process? "Please rewrite this: <ctrl-v>"?
  - browningstreet 3y ago
    It’s a longer prompt than that but “kind of”. I tell it what I’m trying to do, I identify anchor points that need to be preserved, I specify tone.. I also re-feed larger passages and ask it to critique and review and identify weaknesses, gaps, and redundancy. I’ve also asked it to go through bulleted lists and find references for each. It’s an iterative process but one that yielded improvements.
belter 3y ago
How good is Gemini? Because my experience of Gemini Advanced, is that would be sci-fi by the standards of 2020. Compared to LLM technology available in 2024 is pretty bad. Even before posting this comment, and just to make sure I have not been hallucinating lately, just shot a simple programming prompt into Claude, ChatGPT4 and Gemini Advanced. While the first two provided a template that worked even on first attempt, after 5 prompts Gemini Advanced can't even get the expected indent of a Python function block correct...
- sandspar 3y ago
  Gemini is very smart but it fundamentally can't be trusted on any non-technical topics. I talked to it about Taiwan. Gemini gave intelligent reasoning and analysis. But what a coincidence... all of its analysis was perfectly in line with US foreign policy! How unexpected!
dontupvoteme 3y ago
What is it particularly good at? video at 1M tokens sounded neat, I've been very impressed with Cladue's 200k + pretty good reasoning + not lazy output at the moment.

I’ve slowly started to switch over to Gemini Advanced the paid tier from ChatGPT4. Longer conversations seem possible with Gemini and it has more recent information - at least for the topics I care about.

loudmax 3y ago

Google's problem isn't lack of engineering talent, it's the absence of competent management. Gemini could be far ahead of GPT-4 or whatever OpenAI comes out with next. It won't matter unless they actually build a profitable business around running an AI. This should be feasible, but so far there's no indication of this happening. The infrastructure is there. The institutional knowledge and engineering talent is there. Google can do this if they return to their core mission statement: "To organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." This is in contrast to their current objective, which from the outside seems to be "To maximize next quarter's ad revenue." I would love to see a return of the old Google. No amount of engineering skill will make up for clueless management.

browningstreet 3y ago

I've spent this week re-writing a significant document, section by section, with Gemini Advanced. It had opinions (some were offered straight, and some with caveats given other statements in my document), and readily highlighted gaps in the passages. I was impressed. I'm still doing a good portion of the human-does-writing bits, but things I'd wanted to include, but have forgotten along the way -- or which are buried in notes I didn't give to Gemini, were brought to my attention again.

pphysch 3y ago
What sort of prompts do you use for this process? "Please rewrite this: <ctrl-v>"?
- browningstreet 3y ago
  It’s a longer prompt than that but “kind of”. I tell it what I’m trying to do, I identify anchor points that need to be preserved, I specify tone.. I also re-feed larger passages and ask it to critique and review and identify weaknesses, gaps, and redundancy. I’ve also asked it to go through bulleted lists and find references for each. It’s an iterative process but one that yielded improvements.

belter 3y ago

How good is Gemini? Because my experience of Gemini Advanced, is that would be sci-fi by the standards of 2020. Compared to LLM technology available in 2024 is pretty bad. Even before posting this comment, and just to make sure I have not been hallucinating lately, just shot a simple programming prompt into Claude, ChatGPT4 and Gemini Advanced. While the first two provided a template that worked even on first attempt, after 5 prompts Gemini Advanced can't even get the expected indent of a Python function block correct...

sandspar 3y ago
Gemini is very smart but it fundamentally can't be trusted on any non-technical topics. I talked to it about Taiwan. Gemini gave intelligent reasoning and analysis. But what a coincidence... all of its analysis was perfectly in line with US foreign policy! How unexpected!

dontupvoteme 3y ago

What is it particularly good at? video at 1M tokens sounded neat, I've been very impressed with Cladue's 200k + pretty good reasoning + not lazy output at the moment.