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The scale is going to keep getting worse though there has been SEO crap, blogspam etc etc since the internet started. This is just the latest. There's an opport

by andy99 3y ago

The scale is going to keep getting worse though there has been SEO crap, blogspam etc etc since the internet started. This is just the latest. There's an opportunity to build a search mechanism that is immune to the broadening underbelly of the internet, just like there was in the early days.

vivzkestrel 3y ago
and how exactly do you propose that this search works?
- Larrikin 3y ago
  I assume it will be with a PhD thesis similar to how Google started and not an off the cuff response to an Internet comment. Although it would be nice if it truly were that easy.
  - adaptbrian 3y ago
    It is that easy, the thesis is already on the internet. reboot pagerank and dump the NLP. Flag sites that create content too fast and let users find webpages that match their query. This would be difficult today because this would still be a niche thing as that ship has sailed since Google has tethered itself everywhere.
    - ssl-3 3y ago
      Every time you enumerate another method for making a functional search engine right now, you also posit a way for it to be circumvented in an hour or two. "Oh, it's easy! Just bring PageRank back, and flag sites that create content too fast!" Later that afternoon: sites multiply, and individually generate content slowly
      - __loam 3y ago
        It does feel like people don't give Google enough credit that, even in it's current state, they still do a pretty good job in the face of basically every bad actor on the internet.
      - dontupvoteme 3y ago
        the pragmatic solution is simply to build your own, personal, dead internet.
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      - hot_gril 3y ago
        Google is at an advantage here. They can see into their own blackbox and instantly change the rules whenever they want. The abusers have to wait a while to see the results of their experiments, knowing that Google can put all that effort to waste instantly.
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      Pagerank alone was subverted pretty early on, which is why Google started bring additional signals into things.
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by andy99 3y ago

vivzkestrel 3y ago

and how exactly do you propose that this search works?

Larrikin 3y ago
I assume it will be with a PhD thesis similar to how Google started and not an off the cuff response to an Internet comment. Although it would be nice if it truly were that easy.
- adaptbrian 3y ago
  It is that easy, the thesis is already on the internet. reboot pagerank and dump the NLP. Flag sites that create content too fast and let users find webpages that match their query. This would be difficult today because this would still be a niche thing as that ship has sailed since Google has tethered itself everywhere.
  - ssl-3 3y ago
    Every time you enumerate another method for making a functional search engine right now, you also posit a way for it to be circumvented in an hour or two. "Oh, it's easy! Just bring PageRank back, and flag sites that create content too fast!" Later that afternoon: sites multiply, and individually generate content slowly
    - __loam 3y ago
      It does feel like people don't give Google enough credit that, even in it's current state, they still do a pretty good job in the face of basically every bad actor on the internet.
    - dontupvoteme 3y ago
      the pragmatic solution is simply to build your own, personal, dead internet.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - hot_gril 3y ago
      Google is at an advantage here. They can see into their own blackbox and instantly change the rules whenever they want. The abusers have to wait a while to see the results of their experiments, knowing that Google can put all that effort to waste instantly.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    Pagerank alone was subverted pretty early on, which is why Google started bring additional signals into things.
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