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Preservatives could probably be partly blamed, because there are basically poisons. Also, increased antibiotics use... they kill good gut bacterias. AKA: we d

Preservatives could probably be partly blamed, because there are basically poisons. Also, increased antibiotics use... they kill good gut bacterias. AKA: we don't know why you are sick.. take these antibiotics for 10 days for no reason. A dentist once prescribed me two antibiotics at once because his shitty root canal job was hurting me (and it didn't fix anything). $1000 down the drain and it created pain in my guts.

olejorgenb 3y ago
Vitamin C is a poison?
- jijijijij 3y ago
  I mean, OP's nonsense statement notwithstanding, vitamin C in combination with benzoates (another common preservative) produces benzene. The combination is frequently found in food and cosmetics. Vitamin C is a really reactive substance and tends to cut both ways health-wise. There are several known pathways for it becoming detrimental to health.
  - nickburns 3y ago
    and the poster suggesting vitamin C food and cosmetics preservatives (i think?) hurls the word 'nonsense.'
    - ijijijjij 3y ago
      who said vitamin C? NOT ME... don't put words into my mouth? it's actually not even the most common preservative that is added to our foods... sodium benzoate might be the most common one... which they say is considered safe in small doses because they want to save money by extending shelf life.
      - jijijijij 3y ago
        Pretty sure ascorbic acid is the most common antioxidant preservative (sometimes naturally occurring of course). But it is not an antimicrobial agent, hence the frequent problematic combination with benzoates. Tho, not sure about the US, I think benzoates are not the most common antimicrobial in food. It's probably citric, lactic and acetic acid, and sorbates.
      - olejorgenb 3y ago
        My comment was simply a reaction to the sweeping claim that "preservatives are basically poisons". So to be pedantic you sort of said vitamin C? jijijijij's claim that it can be harmful in combination with other preservatives is interesting, but I think I'll trust Derek Lowe on the danger of sodium benzoate + ascorbic acid: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/sodium-benzoate-nonsense https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/sodium-benzoate-no... (These usernames confuse me, and is quite frankly a bit suspicious)
        jijijijij 3y ago
        You mean this? > I think that my favorite, in a way, is the assertion that when sodium benzoate is exposed to ascorbic acid, that it immediately converts to benzene, which cues up a look at benzene's (most definitely alarming) toxicity. The source for this would have to be this paper from 2008, which analyzed a long list of beverages for benzene contamination, and found that the only detectable levels were in carrot juice intended for infants. That's the whole "take". Looks like your guy's snark is rather poorly informed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene_in_soft_drinks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene_in_soft_drinks Funny how a study from 2008 didn't find much, isn't it? > These usernames confuse me I was confused too... then decided to share the confusion :D
  - ijijijjij 3y ago
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    - jijijijij 3y ago
      Thank you, jj.

olejorgenb 3y ago

Vitamin C is a poison?

jijijijij 3y ago
I mean, OP's nonsense statement notwithstanding, vitamin C in combination with benzoates (another common preservative) produces benzene. The combination is frequently found in food and cosmetics. Vitamin C is a really reactive substance and tends to cut both ways health-wise. There are several known pathways for it becoming detrimental to health.
- nickburns 3y ago
  and the poster suggesting vitamin C food and cosmetics preservatives (i think?) hurls the word 'nonsense.'
  - ijijijjij 3y ago
    who said vitamin C? NOT ME... don't put words into my mouth? it's actually not even the most common preservative that is added to our foods... sodium benzoate might be the most common one... which they say is considered safe in small doses because they want to save money by extending shelf life.
    - jijijijij 3y ago
      Pretty sure ascorbic acid is the most common antioxidant preservative (sometimes naturally occurring of course). But it is not an antimicrobial agent, hence the frequent problematic combination with benzoates. Tho, not sure about the US, I think benzoates are not the most common antimicrobial in food. It's probably citric, lactic and acetic acid, and sorbates.
    - olejorgenb 3y ago
      My comment was simply a reaction to the sweeping claim that "preservatives are basically poisons". So to be pedantic you sort of said vitamin C? jijijijij's claim that it can be harmful in combination with other preservatives is interesting, but I think I'll trust Derek Lowe on the danger of sodium benzoate + ascorbic acid: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/sodium-benzoate-nonsense https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/sodium-benzoate-no... (These usernames confuse me, and is quite frankly a bit suspicious)
      - jijijijij 3y ago
        You mean this? > I think that my favorite, in a way, is the assertion that when sodium benzoate is exposed to ascorbic acid, that it immediately converts to benzene, which cues up a look at benzene's (most definitely alarming) toxicity. The source for this would have to be this paper from 2008, which analyzed a long list of beverages for benzene contamination, and found that the only detectable levels were in carrot juice intended for infants. That's the whole "take". Looks like your guy's snark is rather poorly informed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene_in_soft_drinks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene_in_soft_drinks Funny how a study from 2008 didn't find much, isn't it? > These usernames confuse me I was confused too... then decided to share the confusion :D
- ijijijjij 3y ago
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  - jijijijij 3y ago
    Thank you, jj.