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Talked to my niece about this, she's highschool age. She says that during covid, her school set up all of the infrastructure for remote learning, and they _stil

Talked to my niece about this, she's highschool age. She says that during covid, her school set up all of the infrastructure for remote learning, and they _still offer it_ -- that is, if she doesn't want to, she doesn't have to go to class much at all, save for the school's attendance policy... which means that while she has a 4.0, she's also near truancy. For a lot of folks, school was never good. If I had the choice back then, would I have gone if I wasn't _required_ to?

MuffinFlavored 3y ago
> would I have gone if I wasn't _required_ to? Would you every worry about doing ok academically but falling behind socially?
- linuxftw 3y ago
  Have you talked to children that attend public school today? School is not helping them socially whatsoever.
  - MuffinFlavored 3y ago
    Do I think there has been an increase percentage wise in the amount (and in the awareness) of teenagers who don't like various aspects or high school (or children who don't like elementary/middle school)? 100% But I went to public school not too long ago. High school, about 4,000 people. Really diverse culturally. I think you can make the argument that you had "the majority" (50.1%, 2k+ teenagers) who "did well/liked it" overall. Did they dislike it for one reason or another? Sure. But I don't think 49.9% were bullied (social media or not). I would say it's a smaller minority/more "fringe". Not to say that if it's 20% of children it isn't a very large problem. But... if 80% of people 'can and do' make it out + benefit from it + find a way to enjoy it... how come it works for them and not others?
bombcar 3y ago
They count doing the remote stuff as truancy? Given that I would do as much of my course work as fast as I could so I could slack off the rest of the time, if I'd've had distance learning as an option in high school I'd've been all over it (and perhaps learned not to double contract).
albrewer 3y ago
I didn't find this out until I had already graduated, but my school district had a self-paced high school where you could take classes at your own pace. It was meant for disadvantaged kids who could not, for various reason, be in-class for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. However, another reason you could go is if you wanted to graduate early. My wife finished her high school degree just a few months after her 17th birthday; 2 years of "school" were completed in 3 months. Had I gone a similar route, I could have been done with a doctorate degree by 23 instead of just finishing undergrad.

MuffinFlavored 3y ago

> would I have gone if I wasn't _required_ to? Would you every worry about doing ok academically but falling behind socially?

linuxftw 3y ago
Have you talked to children that attend public school today? School is not helping them socially whatsoever.
- MuffinFlavored 3y ago
  Do I think there has been an increase percentage wise in the amount (and in the awareness) of teenagers who don't like various aspects or high school (or children who don't like elementary/middle school)? 100% But I went to public school not too long ago. High school, about 4,000 people. Really diverse culturally. I think you can make the argument that you had "the majority" (50.1%, 2k+ teenagers) who "did well/liked it" overall. Did they dislike it for one reason or another? Sure. But I don't think 49.9% were bullied (social media or not). I would say it's a smaller minority/more "fringe". Not to say that if it's 20% of children it isn't a very large problem. But... if 80% of people 'can and do' make it out + benefit from it + find a way to enjoy it... how come it works for them and not others?

bombcar 3y ago

They count doing the remote stuff as truancy? Given that I would do as much of my course work as fast as I could so I could slack off the rest of the time, if I'd've had distance learning as an option in high school I'd've been all over it (and perhaps learned not to double contract).

albrewer 3y ago

I didn't find this out until I had already graduated, but my school district had a self-paced high school where you could take classes at your own pace. It was meant for disadvantaged kids who could not, for various reason, be in-class for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. However, another reason you could go is if you wanted to graduate early. My wife finished her high school degree just a few months after her 17th birthday; 2 years of "school" were completed in 3 months. Had I gone a similar route, I could have been done with a doctorate degree by 23 instead of just finishing undergrad.