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Those ahead don't need additional benefit. We should be working to bring the left half of the distribution into the fold. If a student is so great that they'r

Those ahead don't need additional benefit. We should be working to bring the left half of the distribution into the fold. If a student is so great that they're skipping out of boredom then there's little that a public institution should do to help them. They can go out with a head start and go get em.

johnloeber 3y ago
This is a severely regressive policy, and -- by the way -- already the case. The vast majority of per-student resources are spent on the bottom 20% by performance.
- willis936 3y ago
  Regressing to a point with less wealth and intellectual inequality?
_dain_ 3y ago
>Those ahead don't need additional benefit. Perhaps, but they also shouldn't be artificially held back. Life doesn't have a speed limit. >If a student is so great that they're skipping out of boredom then there's little that a public institution should do to help them. This doesn't follow at all. Why wouldn't you want to invest in the people with the most potential?
- trgn 3y ago
  > shouldn't be artificially held back. but are they? It seems like every school district has magnets, AP tracks, relationship with community colleges, extracurriculars, skipping a year,... for the smart ones.
  - _dain_ 3y ago
    We don't have "school districts" here nevermind any of that other stuff. Skipping a year is practically unheard of. There were "gifted and talented" programmes but those were just holding pens, there was no serious attempt to teach more advanced material
    - trgn 3y ago
      oki thx, I guess I don't have a clear idea of the wide range in how public schools are organized.
trgn 3y ago
Agreed. Just shift them a year ahead, or in an AP track, or bury them in extracurriculars. It really doesn't seem that hard to me, to accommodate a precocious kid, especially in large schools or large public school districts. (shoot me down if I don't know what I'm talking about). The studious ones will be ok, has it ever been different?
- bombcar 3y ago
  Year-ahead works in high school where you're in various different classes anyway, but it can be harmful to the students in other ways, especially earlier. Just because you're smart enough to perform at a 10th grade level doesn't mean you're mature enough or will fit in.
  - trgn 3y ago
    > because you're smart enough to perform at a 10th grade level doesn't mean you're mature enough or will fit in. Makes sense.

johnloeber 3y ago

This is a severely regressive policy, and -- by the way -- already the case. The vast majority of per-student resources are spent on the bottom 20% by performance.

willis936 3y ago
Regressing to a point with less wealth and intellectual inequality?

_dain_ 3y ago

>Those ahead don't need additional benefit. Perhaps, but they also shouldn't be artificially held back. Life doesn't have a speed limit. >If a student is so great that they're skipping out of boredom then there's little that a public institution should do to help them. This doesn't follow at all. Why wouldn't you want to invest in the people with the most potential?

trgn 3y ago
> shouldn't be artificially held back. but are they? It seems like every school district has magnets, AP tracks, relationship with community colleges, extracurriculars, skipping a year,... for the smart ones.
- _dain_ 3y ago
  We don't have "school districts" here nevermind any of that other stuff. Skipping a year is practically unheard of. There were "gifted and talented" programmes but those were just holding pens, there was no serious attempt to teach more advanced material
  - trgn 3y ago
    oki thx, I guess I don't have a clear idea of the wide range in how public schools are organized.

trgn 3y ago

Agreed. Just shift them a year ahead, or in an AP track, or bury them in extracurriculars. It really doesn't seem that hard to me, to accommodate a precocious kid, especially in large schools or large public school districts. (shoot me down if I don't know what I'm talking about). The studious ones will be ok, has it ever been different?

bombcar 3y ago
Year-ahead works in high school where you're in various different classes anyway, but it can be harmful to the students in other ways, especially earlier. Just because you're smart enough to perform at a 10th grade level doesn't mean you're mature enough or will fit in.
- trgn 3y ago
  > because you're smart enough to perform at a 10th grade level doesn't mean you're mature enough or will fit in. Makes sense.