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People should be more aware of what the license open source software is developed under allows. Amazon can wrap an open source project in an AWS front end and

People should be more aware of what the license open source software is developed under allows. Amazon can wrap an open source project in an AWS front end and create a paid for cloud service off the back of community effort. Or, key contributors can decide they want to take the existing code and change the license their contributions are released under going forward. If the original license allows both these things to happen, then both are a risk and no one is being fooled.

fieldcny 3y ago
Who cares if they do that? Do you see Torvalds and co running around crying because the entire world runs on Linux Kernels? I would love nothing more than for a project I built or contributed to wound up as an AWS service. Writing the code is just part of the value, running it is also very difficult. Especially as the use increases and expose new code paths and bugs and what not.
- xcrunner529 3y ago
  I think if a big company or two decided to lead development and charge for their Linux Linux kernels he’d have an issue as his influence etc would change. Also he is lucky in that he doesn’t have to care about the making money part. Companies have that issue.
  - rmbyrro 3y ago
    Companies can make plenty of money. What they can't - without giving the middle finger to OSS - is satisfy greed. If you want to satisfy greed, fine, but be like Oracle. Sell a commercial license upfront. Don't pretend to be OSS.
    - xcrunner529 3y ago
      Well I’m not sure if it’s just greed at the level at Amazon, Microsoft etc packaging your work and take all the support money from their vast influence.
rmbyrro 3y ago
OSS users don't complain about AWS wrapping around it. It's very much welcome. The greedy people behind businesses managing OSS are concerned, because they are not satisfied with making money. They want to be THE ONLY ONES making LUDICROUS profits on top of community contributions.
- wholinator2 3y ago
  I also have this feeling, but i do feel myself doubting from the lack of examples in this conversation. What are some recent examples of this type of scandal that we can use to solidify this conversation?

fieldcny 3y ago

Who cares if they do that? Do you see Torvalds and co running around crying because the entire world runs on Linux Kernels? I would love nothing more than for a project I built or contributed to wound up as an AWS service. Writing the code is just part of the value, running it is also very difficult. Especially as the use increases and expose new code paths and bugs and what not.

xcrunner529 3y ago
I think if a big company or two decided to lead development and charge for their Linux Linux kernels he’d have an issue as his influence etc would change. Also he is lucky in that he doesn’t have to care about the making money part. Companies have that issue.
- rmbyrro 3y ago
  Companies can make plenty of money. What they can't - without giving the middle finger to OSS - is satisfy greed. If you want to satisfy greed, fine, but be like Oracle. Sell a commercial license upfront. Don't pretend to be OSS.
  - xcrunner529 3y ago
    Well I’m not sure if it’s just greed at the level at Amazon, Microsoft etc packaging your work and take all the support money from their vast influence.

rmbyrro 3y ago

OSS users don't complain about AWS wrapping around it. It's very much welcome. The greedy people behind businesses managing OSS are concerned, because they are not satisfied with making money. They want to be THE ONLY ONES making LUDICROUS profits on top of community contributions.

wholinator2 3y ago
I also have this feeling, but i do feel myself doubting from the lack of examples in this conversation. What are some recent examples of this type of scandal that we can use to solidify this conversation?