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I have done this migration twice and rethinkdb to PostgreSQL once. At this point I think document DBs are as good as dead for new projects. They will live for a

by jpgvm 3y ago

I have done this migration twice and rethinkdb to PostgreSQL once. At this point I think document DBs are as good as dead for new projects. They will live for a really long time still but are in contraction and rent seeking mode now. Expect MongoDB licensing and hosting to increase in price and languish in terms of feature development from here on out.

Beefin 3y ago
mongodb is a fortune 100 company and blows through expectations every quarter. doc dbs are far from dead.
- jpgvm 3y ago
  I didn't say it wouldn't make a ton of money, there is a huge number of MongoDB instances out there in the wild in Fortune 500 due to the MEAN stack days (just like RoR before it). I fully expect the company to keep blowing away expectations by increasing how much revenue they extract from that existing customer base. That said they -still- aren't profitable, they might be profitable next quarter in fact I expect them to be with the current environment but to only reach profitability now after their glory growth days are behind them seems... well pretty garbage. If anything it reminds of me of GoPro except instead of cheap Chinese clones it's PostgreSQL and JSONB that is coming for their lunch.
- unmole 3y ago
  > mongodb is a fortune 100 company Excuse me? MongoDB Inc. posted a mere $1.68 billion in revenue (with a $177 million loss). Coco-Cola posted $45 billion in revenue and ranks at #100. Forget Fortune 100, MongoDb isn't even in the reckoning for Fortune 500.
- forgotmyinfo 3y ago
  Huh, I didn't realize database performance correlates so strongly with stock price. Are there Prometheus metrics for this?
Jolter 3y ago
Maybe you’re just experiencing the trough of disillusionment, from the Gartner curve? I think it’s fair to call document databases a mature technology now, rather than “dead”.
- Semionilo 3y ago
  If your normal DB can handle documents like a doc focused DB but better, than it might no longer be worth it to have it as a category but as a feature
aembleton 3y ago
Why did you move from RethinkDB to Postgres? I've very little experience with Rethink and have only played around with it a few years ago with some small project but found it to be really interesting. I'm just curious about what issues you experienced with it.

by jpgvm 3y ago

Beefin 3y ago

mongodb is a fortune 100 company and blows through expectations every quarter. doc dbs are far from dead.

jpgvm 3y ago
I didn't say it wouldn't make a ton of money, there is a huge number of MongoDB instances out there in the wild in Fortune 500 due to the MEAN stack days (just like RoR before it). I fully expect the company to keep blowing away expectations by increasing how much revenue they extract from that existing customer base. That said they -still- aren't profitable, they might be profitable next quarter in fact I expect them to be with the current environment but to only reach profitability now after their glory growth days are behind them seems... well pretty garbage. If anything it reminds of me of GoPro except instead of cheap Chinese clones it's PostgreSQL and JSONB that is coming for their lunch.
unmole 3y ago
> mongodb is a fortune 100 company Excuse me? MongoDB Inc. posted a mere $1.68 billion in revenue (with a $177 million loss). Coco-Cola posted $45 billion in revenue and ranks at #100. Forget Fortune 100, MongoDb isn't even in the reckoning for Fortune 500.
forgotmyinfo 3y ago
Huh, I didn't realize database performance correlates so strongly with stock price. Are there Prometheus metrics for this?

Jolter 3y ago

Maybe you’re just experiencing the trough of disillusionment, from the Gartner curve? I think it’s fair to call document databases a mature technology now, rather than “dead”.

Semionilo 3y ago
If your normal DB can handle documents like a doc focused DB but better, than it might no longer be worth it to have it as a category but as a feature

aembleton 3y ago

Why did you move from RethinkDB to Postgres? I've very little experience with Rethink and have only played around with it a few years ago with some small project but found it to be really interesting. I'm just curious about what issues you experienced with it.