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This doesn't seem to be true though. In the Terms of Service[1], "User Content" is defined as this in 12.a: > (a) You are responsible for the information, text
by franciscop 3y ago
This doesn't seem to be true though. In the Terms of Service[1], "User Content" is defined as this in 12.a:
> (a) You are responsible for the information, text, opinions, messages, comments, audio visual works, motion pictures, photographs, animation, videos, graphics, sounds, music, software, Apps, and any other content or material that You or your end users submit, upload, post, host, store, or otherwise make available (“Make Available”) on or through the Services (collectively, “Your Content,” “Content” or “User Content”)
What is the "Services" then? It's explained here (first paragraph[1]):
> The Terms explain how you are permitted to use the services provided by and through our platform and website(s) (main url located at www.vultr.com) as well as all of our associated internet and online properties [...] Collectively, the Site, the Materials, and the services provided therein are referred to as the “Services”.
Is a website I host in Vultr an "associated online property"? When I upload or modify some of my website content through vultr.com, does it become User Content? This is very over-reaching on purpose (as most legalese tends to be) but not in a good way, I wouldn't want to have to go to court to prove that their non-binding blog post is correct and the binding legal terms are incorrect, neither should I nor anyone.
[1] https://www.vultr.com/legal/tos/ https://www.vultr.com/legal/tos/
- rezonant 3y ago> Is a website I host in Vultr an "associated online property"? No, I don't think a reasonable person would read what you've quoted and come away with that interpretation. Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist about what reasonable person means. > our associated internet and online properties
- sabellito 3y agoToS are not reasonable people.
- joshspankit 3y agoSorry for your downvotes, but they are earned. Predatory TOS [can be|will be|have been] abused by companies regardless of whether “reasonable people” created them or not. Imagine your car dealer pushed over a 100pg finance contract with a first paragraph that said “we will take all your property if you miss a payment” but the dealer assured you that “we don’t really do that, it’s just lawyer stuff.” then said “you don’t need to read the rest, just sign here”. How much of a great person would they have to be, and how much of an optimist would you have to be to sign it without reading the rest?
- rezonant 3y agoAh ha, that explains my downvotes. I am not claiming the hosting provider are reasonable people. I'm referring to the reasonable person standard of contract law.