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- They're a pretty large cloud services provider (frequently spoken of in the same breath as Digital Ocean and Linode, last I checked). - Dark patterns are bul

- They're a pretty large cloud services provider (frequently spoken of in the same breath as Digital Ocean and Linode, last I checked). - Dark patterns are bullshit but are hardly unique to them. - They probably require a credit card to cut down on scams. - Your loss as a potential customer will certainly go unnoticed, and life will go on for all parties involved.

karolist 3y ago
For what it's worth, they lost me as a potential customer too, having read the parent post, so there's at least 2 of us.
- selcuka 3y ago
  > they lost me as a potential customer too They probably lost a sizable percentage of those who read these comments as well.
  - gassiss 3y ago
    not trying to be facetious or anything, but I doubt their product team is worried about customers that are mad they have to click a few extra buttons to save 1 or 2 dollars per month
    - Eisenstein 3y ago
      For every person who comments there are thousands and thousands who are reading. This is their target customer base -- highly sophisticated technical professionals who have the potential to influence many more non-technical people who take their expertise and opinions as a given. If they aren't worried about it then maybe they should think about it a bit more.
    - closewith 3y ago
      Would that not be their target market? They seem to market their low prices heavily.
    - Beldin 3y ago
      On the other hand, a competent team would care about a negative message being listed first on a popular internet forum frequented by their target demographic.
      - makerdiety 3y ago
        The corporate leviathan has to first detect that event and analyze it for sentiment. Before any loss mitigating response can be possible in the first place.
closewith 3y ago
Digital Ocean now and Linode in the past have been considered viable providers at the companies I've worked with. Never have I ever heard the same about this company. > Your loss as a potential customer will certainly go unnoticed, and life will go on for all parties involved. Do you have an interest in this company or something? Oddly passive aggressive comment.
- nickersonm 3y ago
  Vultr is pretty well known amongst the small technically innovative "cloud" hosting companies, and IMO has better offerings than DO. They also have a peering agreement with Backblaze and Cloudflare; no transfer costs between any of the three.
- arcanemachiner 3y ago
  No financial ties, just annoyed by the mob that comes out of the woodwork to pick apart every shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious, instead of just being stuck in the middle of an accidental PR nightmare.
  - rightbyte 3y ago
    > shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious It is proof of that though. Becouse employing dark patterns is being overtly malicious for us who "see through" dark patterns. Dark patterns mostly work due to the victim not understanding them, so it makes sense to point them out.

karolist 3y ago

For what it's worth, they lost me as a potential customer too, having read the parent post, so there's at least 2 of us.

selcuka 3y ago
> they lost me as a potential customer too They probably lost a sizable percentage of those who read these comments as well.
- gassiss 3y ago
  not trying to be facetious or anything, but I doubt their product team is worried about customers that are mad they have to click a few extra buttons to save 1 or 2 dollars per month
  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    For every person who comments there are thousands and thousands who are reading. This is their target customer base -- highly sophisticated technical professionals who have the potential to influence many more non-technical people who take their expertise and opinions as a given. If they aren't worried about it then maybe they should think about it a bit more.
  - closewith 3y ago
    Would that not be their target market? They seem to market their low prices heavily.
  - Beldin 3y ago
    On the other hand, a competent team would care about a negative message being listed first on a popular internet forum frequented by their target demographic.
    - makerdiety 3y ago
      The corporate leviathan has to first detect that event and analyze it for sentiment. Before any loss mitigating response can be possible in the first place.

closewith 3y ago

Digital Ocean now and Linode in the past have been considered viable providers at the companies I've worked with. Never have I ever heard the same about this company. > Your loss as a potential customer will certainly go unnoticed, and life will go on for all parties involved. Do you have an interest in this company or something? Oddly passive aggressive comment.

nickersonm 3y ago
Vultr is pretty well known amongst the small technically innovative "cloud" hosting companies, and IMO has better offerings than DO. They also have a peering agreement with Backblaze and Cloudflare; no transfer costs between any of the three.
arcanemachiner 3y ago
No financial ties, just annoyed by the mob that comes out of the woodwork to pick apart every shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious, instead of just being stuck in the middle of an accidental PR nightmare.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  > shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious It is proof of that though. Becouse employing dark patterns is being overtly malicious for us who "see through" dark patterns. Dark patterns mostly work due to the victim not understanding them, so it makes sense to point them out.