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In other words: no, you don't have any support.

by AlbertCory 3y ago

coliveira 3y ago
I have no obligation of doing research for you.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  You're the one making the extravagant claims, not me. like >Government contracts were also a big income source for Xerox, AT&T, IBM, and others. Don't get offended if you get challenged on that. I don't think you actually know anything specific here.
  - coliveira 3y ago
    You're making a fool of yourself. There is nothing extravagant about saying government gives money for industrial labs. Here are a few that you are lazy enough not to see: High Taxes Brought Us Xerox PARC and Bell Labs [1] PARC, a Xerox company, today announced it has secured funding from the US Department of Energy’s Advanced Research Projects Agency [2] NTIA grants Verizon, AT&T-led open RAN group $42M [3] Nvidia, Microsoft, Google, and others partner with US government on AI research [4] Governor Hochul announced a $10 billion partnership with the semiconductor industry such as IBM [5] [1] https://slate.com/business/2012/07/xerox-parc-and-bell-labs-brought-to-you-by-high-taxes.html https://slate.com/business/2012/07/xerox-parc-and-bell-labs-... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.com/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.com/press-releases/parc-secures-arpa-e-funding-to-build-energy-saving-travel-preferences-attractive-to-individual-travelers/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.... [3] https://www.mobileworldlive.com/old_latest-stories/ntia-grants-verizon-att-led-open-ran-group-42m/ https://www.mobileworldlive.com/old_latest-stories/ntia-gran... [4] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-microsoft-google-and-others-partner-with-us-government-on-ai-research-program-160111850.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-microsoft-google-and-o... [5] https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-10-billion-partnership-bring-next-generation-research-and https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-1...
    - teleforce 3y ago
      You can say that again [1]: [1] Biden to inject Intel with CHIPS fab cash 'next week': https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/15/biden_intel_chips_funds/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/15/biden_intel_chips_fun...
      - AlbertCory 3y ago
        He can say it again, but it'll be doubly stupid the 2nd time. The discussion was about PARC in the 70's. Not Intel now.
    - AlbertCory 3y ago
      in your little woke bubble, a high marginal tax rate == a gift to corporations that spend a lot. Duh. Do some math. That's what marginal rates mean. [2] doesn't work as a link. In any case, all your links seem to be current, not 1970's. Give us ANY Xerox product that was government-funded. Don't say "ARPANET" because that was not a Xerox product. Nor an IBM or Microsoft product. As for the CHIPS Act: that seems to be fairly recent, doesn't it?
- latency-guy2 3y ago
  You don't, but then your position is worthless and you have convinced no one that what you claim is true. Right now, I'm treating you very closely to being a liar.
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    (first I had to figure out who "you" was :) ) You're right. He's just throwing wild numbers around and mixing up eras.

In other words: no, you don't have any support.

coliveira 3y ago

I have no obligation of doing research for you.

AlbertCory 3y ago
You're the one making the extravagant claims, not me. like >Government contracts were also a big income source for Xerox, AT&T, IBM, and others. Don't get offended if you get challenged on that. I don't think you actually know anything specific here.
- coliveira 3y ago
  You're making a fool of yourself. There is nothing extravagant about saying government gives money for industrial labs. Here are a few that you are lazy enough not to see: High Taxes Brought Us Xerox PARC and Bell Labs [1] PARC, a Xerox company, today announced it has secured funding from the US Department of Energy’s Advanced Research Projects Agency [2] NTIA grants Verizon, AT&T-led open RAN group $42M [3] Nvidia, Microsoft, Google, and others partner with US government on AI research [4] Governor Hochul announced a $10 billion partnership with the semiconductor industry such as IBM [5] [1] https://slate.com/business/2012/07/xerox-parc-and-bell-labs-brought-to-you-by-high-taxes.html https://slate.com/business/2012/07/xerox-parc-and-bell-labs-... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.com/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.com/press-releases/parc-secures-arpa-e-funding-to-build-energy-saving-travel-preferences-attractive-to-individual-travelers/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231211024425/https://www.parc.... [3] https://www.mobileworldlive.com/old_latest-stories/ntia-grants-verizon-att-led-open-ran-group-42m/ https://www.mobileworldlive.com/old_latest-stories/ntia-gran... [4] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-microsoft-google-and-others-partner-with-us-government-on-ai-research-program-160111850.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-microsoft-google-and-o... [5] https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-10-billion-partnership-bring-next-generation-research-and https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-1...
  - teleforce 3y ago
    You can say that again [1]: [1] Biden to inject Intel with CHIPS fab cash 'next week': https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/15/biden_intel_chips_funds/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/15/biden_intel_chips_fun...
    - AlbertCory 3y ago
      He can say it again, but it'll be doubly stupid the 2nd time. The discussion was about PARC in the 70's. Not Intel now.
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    in your little woke bubble, a high marginal tax rate == a gift to corporations that spend a lot. Duh. Do some math. That's what marginal rates mean. [2] doesn't work as a link. In any case, all your links seem to be current, not 1970's. Give us ANY Xerox product that was government-funded. Don't say "ARPANET" because that was not a Xerox product. Nor an IBM or Microsoft product. As for the CHIPS Act: that seems to be fairly recent, doesn't it?
latency-guy2 3y ago
You don't, but then your position is worthless and you have convinced no one that what you claim is true. Right now, I'm treating you very closely to being a liar.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  (first I had to figure out who "you" was :) ) You're right. He's just throwing wild numbers around and mixing up eras.